I too replaced the PITA clips with #8x3/4" stainless sheet metal
screws.  Just one in each flap through the fender lip. Had to when I
gave the front passenger flap a nudge to get the packed snow and ice
off it and the bloody clips fell off.  They were a pain to put on in
July. Impossible in early January.

Jim

On Jan 25, 2008, at 2:03 PM, Tom Buese wrote:

> On Jan 25, 2008, at 12:34 PM, Mike wrote:
>
>>  I have a full set of SA mudflaps on my '87 Westy.  They only have
>> painted logos on the rears.  The logos are there on the fronts too,
>> just not painted white.  I didn't like the hokey clips that came
>> with the set.  They would NOT hold these expensive items well
>> enough that I would have felt secure enough to drive it down the
>> street. without losing them somewhere along the way.  I more
>> permanently attached mine by using 4 or 5 self-drilling, self-
>> tapping small screws to hold each, in addition to the rear supports
>> that clip to the frame.
>
> What did you attach the screws to-my metal arm wasn't long enuf to
> reach the inner wheel well to screw the arm to the well metal.
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>> Now I don't worry about losing them, just about the possible rust
>> due to drilling holes.  But then again mine has a little rust here
>> and there already, so what's the harm?  BTW, I did remove my Westy
>> propane tank mudflap that was ready to fall of due to bad grommets
>> (or whatever they were), and stuck it the cabinet for future(?) use.
>>
>> Mike B.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Buese" <tombuese@COMCAST.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 1:36 PM
>> Subject: Re: Mud flaps
>>
>>
>>> I've got  Ron's rear flaps & the SA Front propane flap on my westy.
>>> The rears have been fine, except that the little clips have fallen
>>> off after only a year, & I can't find a suitable replacement
>>> clip-  I
>>> have used paper clips, HF clamps, etc, but they don't last either.
>>> Any suggestions?  The front SA flap is not as stiff as the OG flap &
>>> bends back from highway driving, but other wise works well.
>>>
>>> Mr. BZ- want to get the 4th flap, but it appears you have to buy a
>>> pair for $80 +-.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 25, 2008, at 11:12 AM, The Bus Depot wrote:
>>>
>>>>> These look to be the same one Bus Depot sell but they have
>>>>> the white logo on all 4. I think the Bus depot ones don't
>>>>> have the white logo, either the front or the rear.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> They do look like the same South African mud flaps. My price is a
>>>> tad
>>>> cheaper, with your 5% Vanagon List discount factored in. Not sure
>>>> why theirs
>>>> show a white logo on both front and rear. The ones I've seen have
>>>> always had
>>>> an embossed white logo on the rears, and an embossed black logo
>>>> on the
>>>> fronts (even though not shown on our picture). Can't say I've
>>>> looked at the
>>>> newest ones that came in, though (and not at the shop right now),
>>>> so maybe
>>>> VW changed them since I last looked.  In any event, assuming
>>>> they're the
>>>> same as the ones I sell, they should hold up great. I had them on
>>>> my Vanagon
>>>> for nearly 10 years before the tree crushed it and they still
>>>> looked like
>>>> new.
>>>>
>>>> Link:
>>>>
>>>> http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=6881  (set of 4; also
>>>> available
>>>> in pairs)
>>>>
>>>> - Ron Salmon
>>>>   The Bus Depot, Inc.
>>>>   www.busdepot.com
>>>>   (215)  234-VWVW
>>>>
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