On Jan 30, 2008, at 2:33 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote:

> Oh I like that a lot !
> But...........of course..........regardless of how creative or
> artistic
> architecture is, the purpose of a roof is to keep out the elements,
> particularly water.

You are not thinking outside the box?  grin

> So given leaks, the architect was too much artist and not enough
> practical
> designer.

Frank would have said w/o innovation/risk taking why bother?
>
> It's 40 + years  old by now, but the roof of the very exotic chapel
> at the
> Air Force Academy near Colorado Springs , Co. ,  always leaked I've
> read.

Yep, & Frank wasn't even involved(Skidmore, Owings & Merrill)
>
> Hey ! maybe Frank was involved with the adapting of water cooling
> to the air
> cooled vw opposed four ( which is what a waterboxer is ) and that's
> why they
> leak easily !!!

Unfortunately Frank died in 1957+-.

Mr. BZ-could have worked w/ Ferdinand P. on the  orig. ac boxer tho?

> Scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Buese [mailto:tombuese@comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 12:59 PM
> To: Scott Daniel - Shazam
> Cc: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: uh-oh
>
>
> On Jan 30, 2008, at 1:48 PM, Scott Daniel - Shazam wrote:
>
>> Of course the famous phrase, first uttered by an engineer, and  so
>> true, is
>> recalled :
>>
>> "It is the nature of fluids to leak."
>
> & Architect Frank Lloyd Wright famously said:  "If the roof doesn't
> leak, the architect has not been creative enough" +-
>
> Mr. BZ-thats why we carry professional liability insurance
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>> Behalf Of
>> Allan Streib
>> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2008 11:34 AM
>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>> Subject: Re: uh-oh
>>
>> Roger Sisler <rogersisler2000@YAHOO.COM> writes:
>>
>>> Owners often report a drop or two overnite in cold weather. Dont
>>> think this happens with new gaskets, though.  Are you sure the
>>> coolant is not coming from some other place than the head gaskets?
>>
>> Pretty sure, unless it's seeping onto the top of the cylinder and
>> migrating down along the gasket edge by capilary action.  The drop I
>> saw was still hanging from the cylinder, right at the gasket on the
>> head side.  It has been cold, below freezing when I've noticed this.
>>
>> Allan
>> --
>> 1991 Vanagon GL
>