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Subject:Re: Electric Vanagon?
From:Scott Daniel - Shazam
Date:Sun, 17 Feb 2008 15:49:02 -0800

If it was that easy, it would have been done by now. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Mike
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 2:06 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Electric Vanagon?

Speaking of capacitors, why can't one use them?  They're lighter than a
battery, and can accept and give their charge quickly (and fully) billions
of times?  How about a large bank of 1 Farad caps somehow wired together to
a power supply/ regulator/ controller connected to 4 wheel hub-mounted
motor/ generators 'a la' Porsche's early design?  Hmmm.

Mike B.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Kenneth Wilford" <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2008 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: Electric Vanagon?

>I agree.  I think it is ironic that this lady complains about the big
>"conspiracy" to kill the electric car only to show us the real reason why
>the electric car doesn't work (high cost, super heavy, no range and lead
>acid batteries stink!).  If you read the whole thing carefully you will
>find that with a ton of donated parts and help they still spent over
>$10,000 to get a Vanagon that will drive maybe 25 miles each way (if it
>doesn't break down).  They added over 1500 lbs of weight to the unladen van
>in batteries!  Of course before that they had an "expensive" and
>"unreliable" water boxer powerplant in there:-)  Just to compare they could
>have had a rebuilt water boxer with all new exhaust system, coolant system,
>rebuilt transmission, and more for less than $10k including the labor!
>
> I give them credit for trying to live their dream.  It is just a shame
> that reality hasn't caught up to the dream of the electric car.  Again I
> find it ironic that almost exactly 100 years after the origins of the car
> all of the different ideas that were originally tried are being tried
> again.  Electric cars were some of the first ever made.  Diesel, hybrids,
> etc were all rolled out as production cars in those early years.  The only
> newer idea I can see would be the hydrogen powered cars.
>
> Please,
> I beg someone, make a super high capacity battery/capacitor that is light
> weight.  Yes that would kill the ICE engine.  We've only been waiting for
> it for the past hundred years though.
>
> Ken Wilford
> John 3:16
> www.vanagain.com
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: Ken Lewis <kdlewis@NORTHSTATE.NET>
>
>> What a ridiculous waste of time, money and resources. What is the point?
>> Ken Lewis
>> http://neksiwel.20m.com/
>