Yeah maybe I could have worded that better,  full compliance =
 certification, partial compliance = compliance from the heads of
 marketing...

 for info on T2B5 see:
 http://www.dieselnet.com/standards/us/ld_t2.php

 and here's another one with a quick reminder from mr lutz as to why
 the new clean diesels aren't what people are going to expect:

 http://www.greencarcongress.com/2007/07/lutz-gm-will-ha.html

 Jim Akiba

 On 2/20/08, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote:
 >
 >
 > >The low sulphur fuel as been coming into effect for both diesel and
 > >gasoline, but it isn't enough. The T2B5 emissions are the strictest on
 > >the planet, even with the low sulphur fuel you still need NOx traps,
 > >SCR, and particulate components in the exhaust.. and not ONLY do you
 > >need to be able to pass the emissions levels for testing, but you have
 > >to prove the 150K mile system durability and performance.. which is
 > >the thing that nobody has been able to do, meaning there are T2B5
 > >compliant diesels that exist, but not one is certified. The diesels in
 > >use in europe won't pass T2B5 either, they are too dirty.
 >
 > And what is the difference between compliance and certification?  Care to
 > elaborate with references quoted?
 >
 >
 > Chris S.
 >
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