That's a really good point... presumably they have a MIL of some kind
to tell you to go by some more smurf pee at the VW dealer, but what if
you delay?

I have no idea how that'll work.. but I'll sure be paying attention
when they start selling.

Jim Akiba

On 2/21/08, Dennis Haynes <d23haynes57@hotmail.com> wrote:
> And what happens if you let it run out of fluid? Does it shut down and
>  leave you stranded or is there some sort of limp mode?
>
>
>  Dennis
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
>  From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
>  Jim Akiba
>  Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 11:56 AM
>  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>  Subject: Re: Bluetec diesel
>
>  Daimler is part of the Bluetec marketing coalition. And yup.. it's
>   urea all right, except instead of pissing into the "adblue" reservoir,
>   you'll have to visit the dealer and pay for refills.
>
>
>   Jim Akiba
>
>
>   On 2/21/08, Kenneth Wilford <kenwilfy@comcast.net> wrote:
>   > I thought that Bluetec was a Mercedez developed technology and that VW
>   >  was going to use a different version of catalytic converter for their
>   >  diesels?  They had a nice article on this in a past issue of Popular
>   >  Mechanics.  The part that I think is weird is the substance that they
>   >  are using as the catalyst in the Bluetec cat.  They called it "urea"
>  in
>   >  the article and they didn't elaborate.  Isn't this pee pee (I use the
>   >  polite term here for the small children in the audience)?  So you have
>  a
>   >  container somewhere in a Benz that contains whizz, piss, urine, etc.
>   >  which is slowly injecting this into your catalytic converter to help
>   >  break down the diesel emissions.  I wonder how this is going to go
>  over
>   >  with the MB crowd?  At least it should be easy to refill the container
>   >  (just go on a long trip and drink a lot of coffee).  Yeah right!
>  Knowing
>   >  the German mindset, only pure German Wee-wee (TM) will do :-)
>   >
>   >  Am I the only one that sees this system as a gold mine for jokes in
>  the
>   >  future?
>   >
>   >  Ken Wilford
>   >  John 3:16
>   >  www.vanagain.com
>   >
>   >
>   >  Jim Akiba wrote:
>   >  > It's going to be interesting for sure. I hope it does indeed come
>  out
>   >  > this year, and it'll be interesting to see how folks deal with the
>   >  > Bluetec and how it goes. Bluetec has been the one to watch for a
>  while
>   >  > since it'll be the first ready, but it'll be interesting to see what
>   >  > happens when it actually starts selling.  I guess we'll have to wait
>   >  > until the end of 3rd quarter which is the latest pushback delay date
>   >  >
>   >  >
>  http://www.brandweek.com/bw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003670
>  246
>   >  >
>   >  > Low and behold the problem was related to durability of the
>  emissions
>   >  > system... hopefully they'll get it sorted and launched. I think it's
>   >  > far worse if they try to hurry it up, and wind up shooting
>  themselves
>   >  > in the foot with problems. Since everyone is watching bluetec to see
>   >  > what happens, it NEEDS to go well.
>   >  >
>   >  > We also need to wait and see what the mileage is actually going to
>  be,
>   >  > 50 would show no loss in MPG vs. a non-bluetec setup, which I find
>   >  > hard to believe but would be a great accomplishment. Tick-tock,
>   >  > nothing to do but wait.
>   >  >
>   >  > Jim Akiba
>   >  >
>   >  >
>   >  >
>   >  > On 2/21/08, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   >  >
>   >  >> Old news...
>   >  >>
>  http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_1906.shtml
>   >  >>
>   >  >> newer news...
>   >  >>
>  http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/publish/volkswagen_news/article_2069.shtml
>   >  >>
>   >  >>
>   >  >> The car will be introduced later this year as a 2009.  140 hp, huge
>  236
>   >  >> lb/ft of torque at around 1900 rpm, which I'm quoting from
>  memory so I might
>   >  >> be off by 5 in either direction... and over 50 mpg on the highway.
>   >  >>  Chris S.
>   >  >>
>   >  >>
>   >  >>
>   >  >> ----- Original Message ----
>   >  >> From: Jim Akiba <jakiba@bostig.com>
>   >  >> To: Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com>
>   >  >> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:54:22 PM
>   >  >> Subject: Re: Zetec diesel
>   >  >>
>   >  >>  On 2/20/08, Chris S. <mrpolak@yahoo.com> wrote:
>   >  >>
>   >  >>> By the way, Lutz, who has a good point, might want to check out
>  the new
>   >  >>> Jetta with piezo injectors which yield over 50mpg (US) on the
>  EPA highway
>   >  >>> cycle.  ;-)
>   >  >>>
>   >  >> The new Jetta is only available in the 2.5L 5 cylinder right now I
>   >  >> thought...
>   >  >>
>   >  >> Jim Akiba
>   >  >>
>   >  >>
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