I didn't grab a pic of the manifold, but here's the downpipe:

http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/jettadownpipe

Neil.

On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:53 AM, Scott Daniel - Shazam
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> HI Neil,
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> That might not be too bad I don't think.
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> All turbo ones start out going forward,
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> And then as I've said, I just do it 'DV style"
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> So then it curves down and under the left cast aluminum engine mount, and
> then does a U turn to the entrance to the muffler going across the back.
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> Just look in the Bentley book at the DV exhaust.
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> Post a pic  of your exhaust manifold .
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> Scott
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> -----Original Message----
>  From: neil N [mailto:musomuso@gmail.com]
>  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 11:47 AM
>  To: Scott Daniel - Shazam
>  Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
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>  Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine
> conversion)
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> Good point about sending welding work to a pro. I too had considered
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> getting a pro to do all the welds once tacked.
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> One of my thoughts was to cut and turn the ABA downpipe 90* so it
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> from there. But that just sounds like too much work and way beyond my
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> current, uh, welding "skills". ---  ;^)
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> Thanks
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> Neil.
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> On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 11:31 AM, Scott Daniel - Shazam
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> > I'll tell you man, the diesel vanagon alternator bracket system � cast
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> > and 10 times less crack prone than any stamped steel alternator mount in
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> > And the diesel vanagon-based exhaust layout  - the exact copy of their
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> > I've build many of those, and never a crack or problem or rattle or
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> >   I'm very willng to condemn cheesy vw construction if I see it, and the
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> > first time I layed eyes on the angle of the left exhaust mount, with the
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> > rubber mounts, each at a different angle, I knew they had figured out the
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> > vibration planes���..and I have just copied that system over and over many
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> > times and never any problem. Like never once. I buid 'em copying diesel
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> > vanagon layout exactly, and there's never a problem.
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> > I'm not the geeatest mig welder in the world either, so I just build 'em
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> > place with the engine in the van, I tack weld it, then when it' s done I
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> > remove and take it to my real welder for finish welding.
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> > I happen to just get standard 'over-the-rear-axe Volvo exhaust pipes from
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> > the aftermarket, and use those to build up my exhaust systems, sometimes I
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> > can make then maybe out of 3 separate pipes total prior to the muffler.
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> >  And asking a welder to weld something ����if it's all set up and clean,
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> > all the have to do is 'just weld' it, it takes them like 8 minutes and
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> > it.  I get great results that way.
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> > There's a pic of some SVX headers on my sight that my welder guy does- he
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> > Scott
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> > www.turbovans.com
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> > -----Original Message-----
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> >  From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of
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> > neil N
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> >  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 9:22 AM
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> >  To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
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> >  Subject: Re: Cut tranny input shaft while still in tranny? (for engine
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> > conversion)
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> > On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 9:03 AM, aatransaxle <daryl@aatransaxle.com> wrote:
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> > > One of my shop customers always has me put a shortened shaft in for a
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> > Tiico...Don't really know if they have an adapter or what...not my choice
> of
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> > >  Friend that did one has had the muffler break and be rewelded and
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> > >  She is ready to throw it back at them and put my WBX in when I do the
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