

| Subject: | Re: Engine Removal |
| From: | neil N |
| Date: | Mon, 17 Mar 2008 18:42:34 -0700 |
Hey nice writing. A thought. On the bell housing (clutch housing), if you can, slide the cross shaft to drivers side and put a little greeze on the exposed passenger side end. Also try greezing the bushings on the driver side too. Rawk on! Neil. On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:17 PM, craig cowan <phishman068@gmail.com> wrote: > I see no way that a "crook" could give me a different set of heads, even if > he had a huge stock of used 1.9 heads. The reason being, they have NO cracks > between the valve seats, have already been beadblasted with great detail, > and have some distinguishing "repairs" to threads, along with an epoxy fix > on the coolant pipe attachment. I also have plenty of pictures, and it would > take the machinist an exorbatent amount of effort in order to pull this one > off. I think noone would be dumb enough to hand me a set of cracked, greasy, > clearly baked on-stuff cylinder heads, when i presented them with the set i > did. > While the heads are getting done, i made my parts orders today and must > highly recomend Ken Willford of Vanagain for all your future parts needs! > Furthermore, last week's conclusion of the "Great spring break Vanagon > Build!" ended as follows: > > I ended up cutting my steel pipes in the rear at two locations a foot apart > for easy fitting of the couplings. I used marine grade coolant hose in 6'' > sections as my couplings, with all stainless steel hose clamps (2 per side, > 4 per coupling) to assure this repair will last a long time. I was hoping to > get 8'' or 10'' couplings, but they only had a foot of the stuff....and i > was running out of time. It will work, and it will last a long time, at > least the remaining life of this van. I must say though, i would rather > never have to crawl under my van with a SawZaw and "a plan" ever again. > In the process of cutting the "right pipe" (Which is the pipe that the rear > section was replaced with various bits of coolant hose coupled by metal > couplings over the course of the previous owners life), the vibrations of > the sawzaw shaking the "left pipe" which was believed to be "ok". It was > rusty but complete.....developed a pinhole and leaked a ton of coolant! > Thats a narrowly avoided failure! So, my pipes are back together, with stock > sections of "good" steel pipes, though i did use two "left" pipes as my > repair sections.....it all seems to fit together so far. > > The Bellhousing.... > I always thought that i was having clutch issues associated with "a weak > clutch" as in, worn out. Having little experience with stickshift cars, and > NO experience outside of my own stickshift vanagon, i didn't know i had a > much larger problem... > We discovered the pilot bearing had ceased to exist, but had not damaged the > input shaft. > The bellhousing however, was a problem. The lever on the side was so tough > to move, that putting vicegrips on it and all of your weight was not an > efficient means of actuating it, a hammer was brought into the equation. > That bellhousing was abandoned, and another was found, with a similar > problem but to a lesser degree. After working it quite a bit, and using > plenty of KROIL and WD40, those problems have dissapeared. The bellhousing > is ready for reinstallation! > > > Then came the waterpump.... > Well i know the replacement of a 1.9 waterpump is not a "GREAT" job to do > with the engine in the van....but mine was simply rediculous! We have the > engine sitting on a table, all the necessary tools at hand, ALL the > accessories off the engine, and it took FOUR HOURS to get off. The final > method of removal involved using a dremel to cut away at the waterpump's > housing on the lower right bolt, heating it up, and pounding away. With the > proper leverage, it was removed. The job simply would not have been possible > with the engine in the van. THIS IS WHY WE ALL NEED TO OWN A TUBE OF > ANTI-SEIZE!!!!! Clearly, my engine was stored in a barrel of heavily > oxygenated water for most of its life, as the rusty fasteners were simply > rediculous. We are now approaching the uphill section of the battle, and > reassembly will be soon! > > The game plan: > I'll be spending this week anticipating parts arriving, and concentrating on > my education. However, this weekend will be spent getting the van ready to > accept the engine. By this i mean, fixing the hot foot problem, > reassembly/reinstallation of the gastank, replacing the fuel lines, > assembling an intake/fuel injection system, and further > beadblasting/painting engine components. If all goes well, the following > weekend will be spent putting the heads on, and bolting the whole thing > together! Then theres a clutch, and brakes to be bled.... > > For those of you avidly following my woes, this is your update. I hope you > enjoyed it. > > -Craig > '85GL > > > > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 8:21 PM, pdooley <psdooley@verizon.net> wrote: > > > > > David, I am a little paranoid about taking anything in for service. > > > > I would mark the parts with a very small, inconspicuous marking or symbol > > in > > a very inconspicuous place that will not get ground down or machined off > > by > > the shop. > > Take several digital pictures of the part with the markings showing before > > dropping off at the machine shop. > > > > You may still get screwed in the end but at least you can prove your point > > and give the crooks a good scare. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > > David Kao > > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:49 PM > > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > > Subject: Re: Engine Removal > > > > When I was much younger and inexperienced I sent a BMW 2002 head to a > > machine shop for a valve job. They called me the next day and told me > > that I had a crack on the head. I rushed back to the shop and saw > > a head that I could not recognize and it had a severe crack. My head > > did not have a crack like that before I sent it in. I could not do > > anything to prove that it wasn't the one I sent in. I swallowed the loss. > > > > A few years passed by and I saw on the news that the machine shop was > > busted by police. The district attorney received many complaints about > > the shop and launched an investigation. The shop owner was indicted > > and the shop was closed. My BMW was not smog compliant and I eventually > > gave it up to charity. The incident of the head prevented me getting too > > deep into rebuilding it. I am glad that I gave it up. > > > > But I have since developed a fear of going into a machine shop. I am > > not trying to say all machine shops are run by crooks. What will you > > do to avoid being victimized by machine shops? Of course I am now > > much more experienced and I probably can avoid it by natural gut > > feeling about a machine shop. But I am not sure how to identify a > > good one from a bad one without getting some business done first. > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > --- Ken Wilford <kenwilfy@COMCAST.NET> wrote: > > > > > Craig, send your heads out to a machine shop. They will do a valve job > > > for you and also repair the exhaust studs no problems for not much > > > money. They will also clean the heads and when you get them back you > > > won't recognize them. Have fun and if you need anything please feel > > > free to give me an email or call. > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > Ken Wilford > > > John 3:16 > > > www.vanagain.com > > > > > > > > > craig cowan wrote: > > > > Hey Gang. As some of you may know, i've had nothing but engine > > troubles > > for > > > > about....a year and a half now. I just gave up. Something needed to be > > > > done... > > > > So i made arrangements with local Vanagon Guy Walt Spak to buy a good > > > > running 1.9 from him. I still have dreams of a conversion someday, and > > still > > > > hope to do one eventually, maybe on my next van. But i need to get > > this > > van > > > > running for the summer, and i am home from college on spring break > > after > > my > > > > spring break plans fell through, so i thought "What better time than > > now?". > > > > Yesterday i got down and dirty with it, and successfully removed the > > engine > > > > for the first time! I was supprised as to how smoothly everything > > went, > > and > > > > it was so nice having the engine out! I had every intention on > > replacing > > my > > > > engine and all the components, as i have vaccuum leaks, everythings > > rusty > > > > beyond use, and my fuel injection system just SUCKS. In addition, > > after > > last > > > > summers exhaust issues ($500 in labor to have them screw up and 'fix' > > their > > > > screwup after breaking a drillbit off inside my head...all in order to > > > > replace a single $2.50 exhaust gasket...), i had no intention on EVER > > > > reusing that head. > > > > With signs of headgasket leakage immenant, and a clutch that was too > > weak to > > > > make it out of the driveway... it was time to do something. > > > > > > > > A single college student with little mechanical background can remove > > a > > > > vanagon engine with only an assistant for the latter portions of the > > engine > > > > removal. To go a few steps further, today i pulled the entire intake, > > > > exhaust, fuel injection, and cooling systems, reducing my engine to a > > block. > > > > For curiosity's sake....i pulled the heads (some trouble with the > > cylinders > > > > trying to come out with the heads....). With the heads off it was > > obvious > > > > that this really IS a low milege engine (Supposedly a canadian > > rebuild) > > as i > > > > was told by the previous owner! Not a single crack between the valves, > > minor > > > > pitting, and everything looks as if its been working well! Long story > > short, > > > > it looks like i'll be reusing this engine and just replacing > > everything > > > > around it! Aside from a few broken bolts, and some concerns about > > fixing > > my > > > > one exhaust port "propperly", i think this should be a good candidate > > to > > > > make my van run and run well! > > > > > > > > Tommorow, I'll be dropping the gas tank (to revise my resealing of > > last > > > > year), and replacing the rusted out coolant pipes using a good used > > set. > > > > This should be quite a wrestling match, i have NO idea how well these > > will > > > > go in, as they were plently hard to get out of the parts car... > > > > Any tips for this? > > > > > > > > Once the engine's back in with a bunch of good new and good used > > parts, > > i > > > > can start on the body : ) > > > > > > > > Thanks for all the help and advice from so many of you! I've learned > > so > > > > much, and i'm confident now more than ever in my abilities to work on > > > > vanagons! > > > > > > > > -Craig > > > > '85GL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > -- Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" http://web.mac.com/tubaneil http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
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