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Subject:Re: Vanagon 1.9 Cat on Jetta 2.0 engine?
From:neil N
Date:Mon, 17 Mar 2008 19:40:25 -0700

Thanks Jake.

How bout' I price a new cat online, freak over the price, then bug you
for the figures?

--- ;^)

On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:45 PM, Jake de Villiers
<crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> If Maiken wasn't at her Yoga class, I could go out and get you comparative
> numbers from her 1990 Golf and the vans.
>
> Give you a solid comparison.
>
>
>  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 6:08 PM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Problem? That's an interesting question.
> >
> > Obviously the Jetta 2.0 was designed to run with a cat. I don't know
> > how much higher the emissions would be if it wasn't installed. I also
> > don't know if emissions would end up being the same as my air cooled
> > was at.
> >
> > I'm mostly putting the cat in because of "green guilt" !
> >
> > Oh my aching conscience .... ;^)
> >
> > Neil.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:56 PM, Jake de Villiers
> >
> >
> >
> > <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We do have annual emissions testing, at least so far, but there's no
> > >  'visual' like the California test.  If you blow clean, you blow clean,
> no
> > >  questions asked.
> > >
> > >  Which makes sense to me.  If you've done an engine swap that makes your
> car
> > >  pollute less, what's the problem?
> > >
> > >  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:51 PM, Dennis Haynes
> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >  >  Oops!
> > >  >
> > >  > Sorry!
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > -----Original Message-----
> > >  > *From:* Jake de Villiers [mailto:crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com]
> > >
> > > > *Sent:* Monday, March 17, 2008 8:49 PM
> > >  > *To:* Dennis Haynes
> > >  > *Cc:* vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
> > >
> > >
> > > > *Subject:* Re: Vanagon 1.9 Cat on Jetta 2.0 engine?
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > Dennis, Neil & I are in British Columbia, Canada; not yet a state.
> :)
> > >  >
> > >  > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 5:28 PM, Dennis Haynes
> <d23haynes57@hotmail.com>
> > >  > wrote:
> > >  >
> > >  > Since you are installing a later engine, you are required to have all
> of
> > >  > the emissions equipment that was on that engine-vehicle when it was
> > >  > manufactured. This is a federal requirement. We are just lucky that
> at the
> > >  > state level, few states have enforcement for conversions or better
> yet
> > >  > there are so many areas that do not even have emissions programs.
> > >  >
> > >  > Dennis
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > -----Original Message-----
> > >  > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
> Behalf Of
> > >  > neil N
> > >  >
> > >  > Sent: Monday, March 17, 2008 5:15 PM
> > >  > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > >  >
> > >  > Subject: Re: Vanagon 1.9 Cat on Jetta 2.0 engine?
> > >  >
> > >  > Thanks Jake et al.
> > >  >
> > >  > Turns out the whole parts scavenging was a bust. The spare front
> lower
> > >  > grill had a broken tang at the bottom and the cat and exhaust looked
> > >  > pretty iffy.
> > >  >
> > >  > The van was pretty much gone through by the time I got there.
> > >  >
> > >  > Pretty sure my '81 isn't technically required to have a cat. Just
> > >  > trying to be nicer to the oxygen we breath by installing one.
> > >  >
> > >  > Cheers,
> > >  >
> > >  > Neil.
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:35 PM, Jake de Villiers
> > >  > <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >  > > Hey Neil, most Subaru conversions use the original cat and muffler
> > >  > assembly
> > >  > >  very successfully.
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  Both the 2.2 and 2.5 litre motors use them , the 2.2 even passes
> > >  > California
> > >  > >  smog testing.
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  On Mon, Mar 17, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Roger Sisler
> > >  > <ROGERSISLER2000@yahoo.com>
> > >  > >  wrote:
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  > I used a 1.9 catalytic converter on my 93 Fox.  Works fine, is
> the
> > >  > same
> > >  > >  > part number, and passed emissions. It looks rather high mileage.
> > >  > >  >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >
> > >  > >  --
> > >  > >  Jake
> > >  > >  1984 Vanagon GL
> > >  > >  1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > >  > >  Crescent Beach, BC
> > >  > >  www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > >  > >  http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> > >  > >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >  > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> > >  >
> > >  > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > >  > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  >
> > >  > --
> > >  > Jake
> > >  > 1984 Vanagon GL
> > >  > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > >  > Crescent Beach, BC
> > >  > www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > >  >
> http://subyjakegooglepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27<http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27>
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  --
> > >  Jake
> > >  1984 Vanagon GL
> > >  1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> > >  Crescent Beach, BC
> > >  www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> > >  http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
> >
> > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
> > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
> >
>
>
>
> --
>
> Jake
> 1984 Vanagon GL
> 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> Crescent Beach, BC
> www.crescentbeachguitar.com
>  http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27

--
Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"

http://web.mac.com/tubaneil
http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/