I should have posted this from the "get go"

Apologies for not! --- :^)

This is how Pdooley did it.

http://s85.photobucket.com/albums/k60/pdooley/motor%20mounts/?start=20

Hope this explains what I'm trying to do.

On 3/15/08, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:
>   Can't the crossbar be mounted on the frame a little further forward or
>  aft?  You don't have to use the stock bolt holes, do you?  Couldn't you just
>  use a stock bar and fabricate 2 engine mounting plates to meet it?
>   IMHO, it seems like making the entire crossbar from scratch is the harder
>  way of doing things..........there's more than one way to skin a cat, right?
>
>
>  Mike B.
>
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>  From: "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
>  To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:41 PM
>  Subject: Re: Building carrier (load bar) Square or rectangular tube steel?
>
>
>  > For sure. Further back. The Fox mount brackets end up being more or
>  > less in the middle of the block lengthwise.
>  >
>  > And for others who might use the Fox brackets in this application, I'm
>  > pretty sure that getting them from an automatic tranny will save a
>  > little work. The manual tranny has one bracket with provisions for
>  > clutch cable. That extra metal needs to be removed. Plus some removed
>  > near bottom LH side for plastic coolant elbow to clear (Jetta ABA
>  > 2.0).
>  >
>  > Neil.
>  >
>  > On 3/15/08, pdooley <psdooley@verizon.net> wrote:
>  >> I'm pretty sure the stock WBX bar is not adequate for an inline swap.
>  >> The I4 motor and oil pan cut way too far down into the WBX load bar.
>  >>
>  >> I just fabbed a load bar from scratch for my I4 swap.
>  >> I seem to remember needing to locate the bar further back to accommodate
>  >> the
>  >> Fox engine mounts; another reason to just start from scratch.
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> -----Original Message-----
>  >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
>  >> Of
>  >> Mike Riley
>  >> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 8:00 PM
>  >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>  >> Subject: Re: Building carrier (load bar) Square or rectangular tube
>  >> steel?
>  >>
>  >> any pics of a I-4 type engine using the stock cross bar for mounts on the
>  >> web somewhere?
>  >> mike
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >>
>  >> > Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:33:38 -0700
>  >> > From: Scott Daniel - Shazam <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
>  >> > Subject: Re: Building carrier (load bar) Square or rectangular tube
>  >> > steel?
>  >> >
>  >> > Just look at a waterboxer rear engine cross bar for inspiration.
>  >> >
>  >> > It's rectangular tubing.
>  >> >
>  >> > Also, of course, it's not loaded in the 'flat' plane, it' loaded in the
>  >> > 'vertical' plan if you follow me, which is stronger.=20
>  >> >
>  >> > I even just USE waterboxer vanagon rear engine mounting cross bars for
>  >> > =
>  >> > other
>  >> > engine installations - I put one under an SVX engine - worked tres =
>  >> > perfecto.
>  >> >
>  >> > =20
>  >> >
>  >> > They're a bit heavy but super solid, and already the right length - =
>  >> > ..one of
>  >> > my fabrication rules .....( wood construction too ) ...when you find 'a
>  >> > fitter' , you have to use it.=20
>  >> >
>  >> > =20
>  >> >
>  >> > Plus rectangular is so much easier to work with, having flat sides, for
>  >> > drilling holes in, bolting or welding things too, etc.=20
>  >> >
>  >> > =20
>  >> >
>  >> > Another tip- build it 'in place' .
>  >> >
>  >> > Get the engine where you want it.
>  >> >
>  >> > Put the bar under it, make cardboard templates for the brackets you
>  >> > need....cut those out on the work bench, set those in place on the
>  >> > van/engine/bar , tack well them. Take the bar out, weld on it more, out
>  >> > =
>  >> > it
>  >> > back in to check the fit, etc.
>  >> >
>  >> > Scott
>  >> >
>  >> > www.turbovans.com <http://www.turbovans.com/> =20
>  >>
>  > --
>  > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
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>  >
>
>

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