

| Subject: | Re: Neil's motor.. |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Shazam |
| Date: | Wed, 26 Mar 2008 15:15:56 -0700 |
Neil That's great you are keeping the engine a 'full' 2.0. A common trick is to put a 1.8 gas head on a 2.0 gas block - that's for clearance at 50 degrees on the left side of the engine bay. I think it's great you're doing a 15 degree- and I wanna do one of those one of these days too - all my inline 4's have been at 50 degrees, and I feel there are real advantages to leaving it like it is, and standing it up in there. And........whatever your cross bar deal is, and that you are happy with it, that's all that matters...........BUT, ......I mean AND........regarding ground clearance. I was thinking about it the other night, and I realized in ALL car and van installations by manufacturers......the pan is always the lowest part. All support bars and gross members go around the pan. You don't have a cut out in your pan since it's from a sideways front engine car........but, since getting the engine as low as is practical is always desired.......you look under any car ......volvo, subaru, american front engine V-8, ......and the pan is always the lowest part - just to get the engine low as is practical and still have decent ground clearance. I think if it was my installation I'd be temped to make a cut out at one end of the pan, flywheel end probably, and run my cross bar through there. On Subaru engine conversions, whatever support bar is used, it always goes around the end of the pan, either forward or at the rear, and the pan is the lowest part. Anyway ! you having fun is the most important part. Oh......last thought, on 2WD I fudge the whole engine up as much as 2 solid inches - as long as the shift linkage angle doesn't get too extreme or weird, there's room to raise the engine quite a bit compared to stock. Scott www.turbovans.com -----Original Message----- From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of neil N Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:43 AM To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Subject: Re: Neil's motor.. Thanks for the tips Don. It's a different set up than a "diesel" type of install. It's a stock Jetta ABA 2.0 mounted at 15 degrees. Much more upright. Plus it keeps the stock 2.0 head and Motronic FI. This changes things a lot over a given VW I4 using a 1.8 head. But, it presents similar needs. Just different locations. That I can see........ so far! Appreciate you telling me what's in your rig. The ducting from air intake plenum to air box may end up being a combination of hard and flexible materials. This would enable me to use the stock air intake boot..... if my plan works that is! I've never seen brake ducting before, but I'll bet there's some kind of residential HVAC ducting I could use for both the air box snorkel and the ducting to the throttle body. Here's a couple of low res pics (less than 50kb each). In one, you can see how I've placed the stock air intake boot. http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/Aircleanertestfitsmall.jpg/Aircleanertestfit small-full;init:.jpg http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/Engineroughedin1small.jpg/Engineroughedin1sm all-full;init:.jpg Thanks, Neil. On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 5:46 AM, Don Hanson <dhanson@gorge.net> wrote: > Hey Neil, > > I haven't been bringing up your pics of the engine mounts, etc. because I > have this *glacial* dial-up internet connection here at my house out in the > sticks, but it sounds like you are well on the way. > A suggestion, as I see you mentioned connecting your air cleaner somehow. > In my inline four, the conversion was done when I got it, but the convertor > used thin-wall aluminum irrigation sprinkler pipe to fabricate the intake > runner from the airbox over to the plenum and it looks like it might have > been fairly simple for him. The end result is quite sturdy to work with > when you must dink around with it. My air cleaner is in the stock > position(?) and the 'duct work' crosses the engine compartment at the front > right along the edge of the access hatch, with another snorkel out of the > aircleaner, made of brake ducting, going up into the right side rear body > vent for cool fresh air. > If your install is similar to the I-4/Diesel one that I have, don't > neglect to connect the engine mounts across under the motor. I came very > close to having a huge headache when my right side (the longer one) motor > mount sheered off the bolts at the engine block, due to it's propensity to > twist without the cross brace to defer some of that force.. > > Don Hanson > -- Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" http://web.mac.com/tubaneil http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 8:52 AM
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