>I'm on my
>second Westy now and when I was camping last week in SC, there were
>bunches of Roadtreks and Pleasureway vans around

My biggest problem with these van camper conversions (Roadtrek, etc.) is the wasted space of trying to cram a bathroom in vehicle this size, I just don't think it's practical. Sit on the "toilet" and shower with a hand held shower? I don't think so! Then again I'm 6'4". Then there's other things that are just better to do outside of a vehicle this size!    Jeff