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Subject:Re: insulating against road noise
From:Jake de Villiers
Date:Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:56:33 -0700

I think that page was written before the advent of foil/bubble/bubble/foil
insulation which gives the R value of fibreglass without the moisture
retention.

You can use it as its own vapour barrier.

On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:45 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hey that's a great set of pages. Pretty intense process. Interesting
> to see that they use fiberglass (though with a layer of poly over FG).
>
> Great info.
>
> Thanks Jake
>
> Neil.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Jake de Villiers
> <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Firstly, I am in agreement with Ken on the inadvisability of using any
> >  insulation that has moisture-retaining capabilities.
> >
> >  The Iceguard is what I have in my two front doors, in the battery boxes
> and
> >  under the rear seats.  It works great and I look forward to when I have
> time
> >  to do the slider, the hatch and the cab roof, let alone the rear sides.
>   :)
> >
> >  I think this is the link you're looking for:
> >  http://www.shagadelic.org/VW/info/gmbulley-soundproof/
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Woody Halsey <WHalsey@sya.org> wrote:
> >
> >  > Dear All,
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Yesterday Ken Wilford recommended against using recycled cotton fiber
> >  > home insulation bats to soundproof to my 83.5 V'gon. He warned that
> the
> >  > insulation could absorb moisture that would be transferred to the
> >  > fiberboard panels and lead to warping. That all makes sense (and I
> >  > always values Ken's wise advice); but I would be curious to know if
> >  > anyone has tried that solution and kept moisture from getting to the
> >  > panels by renewing/replacing the plastic sheets that were
> (theoretically
> >  > anyway - I don't think I ever saw them on mine) originally glued to
> the
> >  > walls of the vehicle, behind the clip on panels. Is there also a risk
> of
> >  > moisture getting trapped in the insulation that would then lead to
> >  > rusting of the body itself, from the inside out?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Ken also informed me that rubberized "ice and water shield" used on
> >  > roofs is essentially the same product as the adhesive, rubber
> >  > soundproofing material sold on the internet. I have plenty of that
> lying
> >  > around after a roofing project on my house, and wonder if anyone has
> had
> >  > good luck installing it. How well does it stick? Do you have to warm
> it
> >  > up before applying? Does it really absorb road noise? Has anyone
> tried
> >  > applying more than one layer?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > I am researching the archives; but any current thoughts would be much
> >  > appreciated.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Also, does anyone have a link to Matthew Bulley's treatise on the
> >  > subject.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Finally, is there any difference between the white "Kool Patch" and
> the
> >  > black?
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Many thanks.
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  > Woody
> >  >
> >  > 83.5 V'gon
> >  >
> >  > Haverhill, MA
> >  >
> >  >  woodyhalsey@sya.org
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >  >
> >
> >
> >  --
> >  Jake
> >  1984 Vanagon GL
> >  1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
> >  Crescent Beach, BC
> >  www.crescentbeachguitar.com
> >  http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco"
>
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>

--
Jake
1984 Vanagon GL
1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie"
Crescent Beach, BC
www.crescentbeachguitar.com
http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27