

| Subject: | Re: insulating against road noise |
| From: | Jake de Villiers |
| Date: | Thu, 3 Apr 2008 08:56:33 -0700 |
I think that page was written before the advent of foil/bubble/bubble/foil insulation which gives the R value of fibreglass without the moisture retention. You can use it as its own vapour barrier. On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:45 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey that's a great set of pages. Pretty intense process. Interesting > to see that they use fiberglass (though with a layer of poly over FG). > > Great info. > > Thanks Jake > > Neil. > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:16 PM, Jake de Villiers > <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote: > > Firstly, I am in agreement with Ken on the inadvisability of using any > > insulation that has moisture-retaining capabilities. > > > > The Iceguard is what I have in my two front doors, in the battery boxes > and > > under the rear seats. It works great and I look forward to when I have > time > > to do the slider, the hatch and the cab roof, let alone the rear sides. > :) > > > > I think this is the link you're looking for: > > http://www.shagadelic.org/VW/info/gmbulley-soundproof/ > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Woody Halsey <WHalsey@sya.org> wrote: > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yesterday Ken Wilford recommended against using recycled cotton fiber > > > home insulation bats to soundproof to my 83.5 V'gon. He warned that > the > > > insulation could absorb moisture that would be transferred to the > > > fiberboard panels and lead to warping. That all makes sense (and I > > > always values Ken's wise advice); but I would be curious to know if > > > anyone has tried that solution and kept moisture from getting to the > > > panels by renewing/replacing the plastic sheets that were > (theoretically > > > anyway - I don't think I ever saw them on mine) originally glued to > the > > > walls of the vehicle, behind the clip on panels. Is there also a risk > of > > > moisture getting trapped in the insulation that would then lead to > > > rusting of the body itself, from the inside out? > > > > > > > > > > > > Ken also informed me that rubberized "ice and water shield" used on > > > roofs is essentially the same product as the adhesive, rubber > > > soundproofing material sold on the internet. I have plenty of that > lying > > > around after a roofing project on my house, and wonder if anyone has > had > > > good luck installing it. How well does it stick? Do you have to warm > it > > > up before applying? Does it really absorb road noise? Has anyone > tried > > > applying more than one layer? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am researching the archives; but any current thoughts would be much > > > appreciated. > > > > > > > > > > > > Also, does anyone have a link to Matthew Bulley's treatise on the > > > subject. > > > > > > > > > > > > Finally, is there any difference between the white "Kool Patch" and > the > > > black? > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > Woody > > > > > > 83.5 V'gon > > > > > > Haverhill, MA > > > > > > woodyhalsey@sya.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jake > > 1984 Vanagon GL > > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > > Crescent Beach, BC > > www.crescentbeachguitar.com > > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 > > > > > > -- > Neil Nicholson. 1981 Air Cooled Westfalia - "Jaco" > > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > -- Jake 1984 Vanagon GL 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" Crescent Beach, BC www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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