

| Subject: | Re: Furnace for camping in the winter? |
| From: | Keith Ovregaard |
| Date: | Thu, 24 Apr 2008 08:57:33 -0700 |
"Just be aware that these heaters emit combustion products"... except the Platinum Cat. It has a small exhaust fan and a flexible hose to move the gases outside. On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 1:18 AM, Bill Glenn <idahobill@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 23 Apr 2008 15:58:11 +0000, Jamie Fitterer > <fittdog8848@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: > > >ANyone have any ideas besides running a space heater off of the secondary > batery for heating a van for winter camping. I seem to remember that > someone years ago had a small RV furnace put in a WESTY and running it off > the propane tank. Anyone that has done this or has ideas please help. > > > Jamie, > It all depends on what you wish to accomplish. If you're just trying to > take the chill off in the morning while camping in Spring or in the Autumn, > or warm the cabin for an hour or two in the evening, a small catalytic > heater may do. Just be aware that these heaters emit combustion products > into your van, including carbon monoxide under certain conditions. I > personally would not consider one of these unless it also incorporates a > low-oxygen cut-off (many do not). > > For more heat, and a heater that draws its combustion air and exhausts the > products of combustion from/to the outside, there is the Propex, available > in either 6500 BTU/hr or 9500 BTU/hr. > > If it's serious winter camping you have in mind, a higher heat output would > be advisable; look at the Atwood Everest Star which also draws/exhausts > from/to the outside, which is available in 12,000, 16,000, and 18,000 > BTU/hr. http://www.atwoodmobile.com/Products/furnace/7900.cfm > > These units are usually installed aft of the refrigerator in the lower > cabinet, and vent through the wall of the van. Some accommodation must be > made for the length of these furnaces, since they are about 1-1/2 too long > to fit entirely within the cabinet (if you proceed with an Atwood, ask me > about this). > > There other heaters too, such as Webasto and Eberspacher, which utilize the > onboard fuel source, either gasoline or diesel, but these are much more > expensive and not so common in a Vanagon. > > Keep in mind that you will likely never be able to heat the van as though > it were your living room, at least not for any extended period. There is > just not the battery capacity, even with an auxiliary battery, to run the > fan on these units for extended periods, and only so much propane can be > accommodated due to space constraints. > > If you spend time at significant altitude, remember that the BTU ratings > above are input ratings, and must be de-rated 3-4% per thousand feet of > altitude for the output rating. And one more thing, if you plan on being > out in very cold temperatures, the vaporization rate of the liquid propane > will slow, and if the rate of withdrawal of propane from the tank is high > relative to the capacity of the tank, it will slow even further, such that > the supply can become insufficient to operate your heater. The tell-tale > sign of this is a frosty tank. > > Finally, I never operate my heater (an Atwood 12,000BTU) without a > functioning carbon monoxide detector in place, even though it draws in > combustion air and exhausts combustion gasses to the outside. I have too > much experience with how insidious carbon monoxide poisoning can be to do > otherwise. > > Bill >
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