Jim,

Wow. I also greatly appreciate your explanation, I had no idea. I think
having explained that will help you out a bit as far as the list users go.

I think figureing out a way to centralize everything will be esential. Not
only will it make things easier for yourself and the rest of the list
members but I can't imagine that two people who have very little to do with
it (Tom and Ron) want to be bothered when something goes wrong.

I understand you have limited access to them but I think the first step is
to re-open up a conversation with them about having things moved.

The other thing that comes to mind is that Ron legally owns Vanagon.com and
the list but you say that the list members paid for it. If Ron is no longer
involved how would one go about having ownership of the domain name and list
moved to someone else?

I know I haven't answered any questions here but those are the things that
came to my mind.
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Thanks,

Jeff
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