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Subject:Re: Does anyone know if you can get a ticket for staying overnight in a NJ walmart lot?
From:Loren Busch
Date:Tue, 20 May 2008 08:13:33 -0700

RE: Wallmart Parking
This original message seems to have been split into several threads but I'll
respond on the original.  This is based on several responses from the past.
First, check with the Wallmart you are stopping at.
Second, based on the experience of one Westy driver, that may not always be
enough.  One driver was hassled (threatened with a 'trespassing' ticket) in
the morning even after being told by the Wallmart management that it was
okay to park.  Seemed to be a local ordnance thing in that city.
Third, several list members over the last couple of years have mentioned
lobbying by local commercial RV parks to outlaw any on street OR Wallmart
'stealth' camping because they thought they were losing business. In fact
right now the city council in Olympia Wa (the State capitol no less) are
discussing just such an ordinance (though I have no info that the RV parks
owners have anything to do with that), they want to ban the parking of ANY
RV on the street overnight.
And last, and I hope there is a legal expert out there that will correct me
if I'm wrong on this, trespass is a civil issue between the property owner
(or owners agent) and the RV owner.  The property owner would have to
complain to the police before the police could issue a ticket for trespass.
The police can't just drive up and start writing.  I suppose a local
ordinance could be written in such a manner as to allow this but I don't see
how.  Then again, a property owner could leave standing instructions with
the police stating that any vehicle in  their parking lot was assumed to be
trespassing.

BTW, and this is from a discussion about a year or two ago, one of the
Canadian provinces has a provincial law that states that no RV can be parked
overnight anywhere other than an approved park, public or private.  The
catch on that one is that a dozen or so list members pointed out that they
have NEVER heard of that law being enforced.