Why are you bent on spending more money and having more complexity and
still end up with the same performance as a stock battery under the
drivers seat? Gels can be even more finicky than AGM.

Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Troy
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 2:59 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Battery Woes/Choice

Just want to add that a UI gel battery might be a nice option for some
folks too. The battery is only 5 inches deep by 7 5/8" wide by 7 inches
high. They weigh in at 24 pounds and carry 33 AH's. I took a few quick
measurements and I think by removing the metal lip behind the driver seat,
two of these will fit side-by-side for 66AH's.

One could also just put one of these in the secret compartment next to the
water holding tank-- it will fit fine there, or behind the right rear
taillight, and lastly on the right side of the heater under the rear seat,
they will go with widthwise taking a minimal amount of space. This little
extra battery may offer the supplemental power that I was looking for. I'm
not sure it's a wise idea to combine a gel and an AGM, very different
charging requirements. They would more than likely have to be isolated to
be used with an external charger.

Food for thought.

Troy

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: RAlanen@aol.com
  To: colorworks@gci.net
  Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2008 3:09 PM
  Subject: Re: Battery Woes/Choice

  In a message dated 25/05/2008 4:42:15 P.M. Central Standard Time,
colorworks@gci.net writes:
    In order to get a relay (sure power, etc) in the box too,  I would
probably have to go with the group 42 battery. Unfortunately, the reserve
capacity (or AH's) is rarely listed. I was over at Wally world yesterday
and check the catalogs, but they had no such information. I believe the
group 41 is about a 75-90 minute reserved, so only about 30 40 amp hours
or so. Group 42 is even less.

          Troy, all these batteries listed below will fit in that battery
compartment with the Sure Power 1315.

  Group 41 seems to be the native battery for Vanagons. There are others
  that fit into the compartment too.

  Group 41   standard size, sort off
  Group 42   smaller, weaker option
  Group 48   very close to standard but easier fit into compartment?
  Group 91   standard size, maybe stronger?
  Group 40R  maybe close but don't have details

  Cheers,

  Frank Condelli
  Almonte, Ontario, Canada
  '87 Westy & Lionel Trains (Collection for sale)
  Frank Condelli & Associates - Vanagon/Vanagon Westfalia Service in the
Ottawa Valley
  Vanagon Stainless Steel Exhaust Systems
  BusFusion a VW Camper camping event, Almonte, ON, June12 ~ 15, 2008