thanks scott
i strongly suspected this as well ...
i understood the extra catalytic converter thingy
and i understood there might be some advanced electronics
i just wasnt sure if it was so complex as making like you say ....
piston cum jet
but i can certainly understand how it would become that complex
thanks for the input ...
my guess is that i may have to repower in ten years so then i will look at
what is around
yours

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 4:45 PM, Scott Foss - Shazam <
scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

>  Roger,
> I'm pretty sure if you really study what Blue Tec modern diesel technology
> invovles ...........
> like Mercedes has one out now ............
> you'll find electronic controls and common rail injection, and injection
> fuel pressure about 6 times ( or something extreme compared to what our VW
> TD non-tdi, non-electronica engines use )   what you have on your van's
> engine.
> Plus uera injection proably, plus special catalytic converter/s.
>
> it's like asking if you can convert a piston aircraft engine to jet almost
> - not quite that extreme really, but you get what i'm saying.
> i.e. 'you can't get there from here." basically
>
> Tings evolve in small steps at times.........but at other times to really
> get anywhere............it has to be a whole other paradigm.
>
> Yes, a blue tec engien is a piston diesel internal combustion engine just
> like yours........but the ENTIRE fuel and combustion management system is 20
> times more evolved than what you have on your current Vanagon TD engine.
>
> hmmm..............just tried to find it quickly at Wikipedia and it didn't
> just jump right up.
> But scott says 'i don't think you can.'
> nice thought though !!
>
> Do you have an intercooler ?
> If not that would be your next practical step forward I'm pretty sure.
> In 'all' turbo engines, if they don't have an
> intercooler...................the next step is to have one, either an air
> type or a liquid cooler type.
> Tdi people are always doing them. All  electronic VW tdi engines use an IC.
>
>
> Heck...........just in Combustion Chamber shape ALONE.........you can't
> change a horse cart into a space ship, or even a car.
>
> First it  IS add-on mods to existing stuff.  The first smog devices staring
> in about 1971 were that. - retrofitted stuff to engines never designed with
> low emissions in mind.
> And those cars sucked all through the 70's..........
> Until they got smart, started with a clean sheet of paper, and went to
> electronic fuel injection and . combustion chambers deigned for low
> emissions, and good driveability etc.
>
> So i strongly suspect 'you can't blue tec your TDV !"
> scott
> www.turbovans.com
>
>
>
> Roger Whittaker wrote:
>
> ok lets try a little different ...
> this is a factory OEM 1989 Diesel westie
> does anyone with exhaust knowledge think this Blue Tec could be retro fitted
>
> it seems this technology improves low sulfur diesel performance
> and allows vehicles so equipped to pass latest emission testing
>
> i see by the stories online that VW has recently acquired the right to equip
> vehicles with Blue Tec
> yours
>
> On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 1:02 PM, Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@mac.com> <kimbrennan@mac.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>  To an 1889 westie? I'm fairly confident the answer is no...
> ;p
>
> On May 26, 2008, at 2:52 PM, Roger Whittaker wrote:
>
> Does any one know if this new BLUE TEC technology
> can be added to a 1889 diesel westie
>
>
>
>
>
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