Hmm. I was wrong the PCE210 were the upgrade model. The RCE210 is
slightly less (and also still available for around $150. )

On May 29, 2008, at 8:40 PM, Kim Brennan wrote:

> I have the PCE210 which are 4" speakers.
>
> I believe there was a RCE210 (slightly upgraded model) which is what I
> have in my Westy. They are essentially the same (tweeter is different,
> but the main speaker is identical.)
>
> Even though discontinued they appear to still be available from some
> places for about $160 or so a pair.
>
>
> On May 29, 2008, at 7:52 PM, mordo wrote:
>
>> Kim and Dave,
>> Which MB Quart models do you have? Are they 4" or 5.25"?
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Dave Mari <vw4x41987@yahoo.com>
>> Date: Thu, May 29, 2008 at 3:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: a speaker recommendation
>> To: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>>
>>
>> I have both speakers and like the sound of the MB over the
>> blaupunkts. So
>> better sound and a good fit, not sure about the $$; but 2 out 3 so
>> far :)
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>> --- On Tue, 5/27/08, Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM> wrote:
>>
>>> From: Kim Brennan <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
>>> Subject: Re: a speaker recommendation
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Date: Tuesday, May 27, 2008, 10:37 PM
>>> While that is a great price, the fact that they don't
>>> clear the window
>>> cranks is a bit of a let down.
>>>
>>> The MB Quart PCE210 4" speakers are flush mounted and
>>> DO allow for the
>>> clearance of the window cranks. I believe these are
>>> discontinued now,
>>> but they still seem to be available in the market place. I
>>> got mine a
>>> couple of years ago from Crutchfield, when Crutchfield
>>> carried MB
>>> Quarts.
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 27, 2008, at 9:16 PM, pickle vanagon wrote:
>>>
>>>> We're installing a "real" sound system
>>> so we can listen to tunes in
>>>> the
>>>> van.  I found this site midwest electronics that is
>>> the main
>>>> blaupunkt us
>>>> seller.  Anyways, they have a bunch of things (last
>>> years models?)
>>>> marked
>>>> down at ridiculous prices (75-80%).  For example, I
>>> just finished
>>>> installing
>>>> four of these in our westy:
>>>>
>>> http://www.midwestelectronics.com/blaupunkt-thx402-p-68.html
>>>> They're marked down to $35 a pair right now, which
>>> seems ridiculous
>>>> to me.
>>>> Be careful, they have the same model number elsewhere
>>> on the site
>>>> listed at
>>>> $90.  I guess that is this year's
>>> "edition".
>>>>
>>>> They fit in all of my stock speaker holes.  The grill
>>> was shallow
>>>> enough to
>>>> clear the dash, but not the window cranks (bent the
>>> cranks to get
>>>> them to
>>>> clear, broke a few cranks in the process).
>>>> I had to "trim" my a/c plastic face in the
>>> rear (this is westy a/c)
>>>> to clear
>>>> the grills.
>>>>
>>>> Tomorrow I'm installing a subwoofer I got from the
>>> same site, but if
>>>> I had
>>>> known how great these would sound, I probably
>>> wouldn't have bothered.
>>>> There's no deep bass of course, but for 4 inchers,
>>> they have a very
>>>> full
>>>> range.
>>>>
>>>> I have no affiliation with blaupunkt or the midwest
>>> electronics place.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I was expecting to have to run wires to
>>> the rear
>>>> speakers, since
>>>> I've heard the old vans have just a single ground
>>> going back there.
>>>> I had
>>>> two complete pairs of speaker wire in the back, so I
>>> didn't have to
>>>> after
>>>> all.  Does this mean some PO ran the wires?
>>>>
>>>> -Wes
>>>> 1.9l '83 westy
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> mordo
>> 1990 Carat