I hadn't planned to, but you never know............

Mike B.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Chris S 
  To: Mike 
  Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:13 PM
  Subject: Re: Re: Better MPG or snake oil - baking soda voodoo

  Mike,

  I do understand the 4-cycle process but simply did not think before I started typing. The intake valves are closed during the compression, combustion and exhaust part of the cycle.

  So, are you building this contraption?

  Chris.

  On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 9:00 AM, Mike <mbucchino@charter.net> wrote:

     If it were true that half the H + O was going out the tailpipe unburned, then the same would be true of any fuel/ air mixture burned in any 4-stroke engine!  Injection, carburetion, direct injection; there's only one stroke that burns fuel to create power.  Do you understand 4-stroke operation? Something's not right with your line of thinking there, Chris............

    Mike B.

    ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris S" <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>

    To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>

    Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:20 AM

    Subject: Re: Better MPG or snake oil - baking soda voodoo

      I'm interested in how this would affect the combustion process and how much
      oxygen/hydrogen would you need to make a difference.

      At 3500 rpm our engine, with displacement rounded to 2 liters, pumps 7000
      liters of air per minute.  How much hydrogen would the gizmo add per each
      combustion cycle?  That's fairly easily calculated once you know output of
      the gizmo.  Keep in mind half of the produced H+O goes out the tail pipe as
      our 4-strokes fire every other revolution of the crank.  Maybe we need
      direct H+O injection?

      Aw.. somebody do it just for fun of it and I promise I'll build those belly
      pans I talked about!

      Chris.