

| Subject: | Re: Attn: Electrical Gurus (engine conversion grounds question) |
| From: | neil N |
| Date: | Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:22:31 -0700 |
Hi Pat. If need be, I'll add a ground from the frame to the engine. Something to consider given that I've removed the Jetta engine from it's happy home to a foreign land. As for the wiring harness, here's a couple of possibilities in terms of the physical integrity of the wiring harness. I added a little length to some of the connectors in the wiring harness. (in a "failed" attempt to position the large round 28 pin connector on engine in a better spot.... away from the firewall) Plus, quite a few wires had cracks in the casing and minor corrosion in the strands. I cut and soldered new wire into those spots. In most cases slightly large gauge wire. I wonder if that added length (i.e. a few inches at most) caused this, and/or the larger gauge? I will double check the engine portion of harness. If need be, I'll pull the larger portion of harness and re-check it again. For sure. I have gone over this harness quite a few times. Newbie learning curve for the most part. Never done anything like this before! --- :^) Thanks Pat, Neil. On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 5:10 PM, pdooley <psdooley@verizon.net> wrote: > If you're not sure what that means just add some extra ground wires between > engine and body to get everything at the same potential (well, closer > anyway). > > It sounds like your wire harness may have some physical integrity issues. > I would check all the mechanical connections and check the circuit traces > for proper resistance. > > You probably already checked all the grounds 10 times but maybe you missed > something? > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Jim Akiba > Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2008 5:58 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Attn: Electrical Gurus (engine conversion grounds question) > > Keep in mind that in most vehicles, the sensor ground or returns are > not chassis/battery grounds, they are reference grounds provided by > the ECU to control/prevent voltage fluctuations and offsets... so you > might not be doing the right thing by simply grounding them. Re-check > the stock diagrams for this.. from the description (esp. with the > mention of the ECU/engine management in the one description) maybe > this is your issue. > > Jim Akiba > > > > On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 12:18 PM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: >> Hi all. >> >> My Jetta ABA 2.0 OBD1 conversion *was* running crappy. TPS and ECT >> weren't grounded. (D-oh!) Grounded them, engine runs better, but I >> still get error codes for TPS, ECT, and CMP. >> >> I conveniently wired the TPS, ECT, and CMP to share the same physical >> ground location. >> >> But..... Bentley shows them using grounds at (presumably) different > locals. >> >> i.e. "Sensor ground", "MFI Motronic Multiport Fuel Injection" >> >> In archives, I read of Vanagon O2 sensor issues related to shield on >> coax and ground wire sharing the same physical ground location. This >> tipped me off. >> >> So..... >> >> If TPS, CMP, and ECT share the same ground connection (location), >> would this cause these error codes? Would sharing the same physical >> ground connection hinder performance and/or damage these parts? >> >> If I can leave it as is, I will. I don't understand what/where Bentley >> is referring to when using the various terms for different ground >> locations. >> >> "Fussy" questions, but it would be nice to get this "right". >> >> FWIW, these are the only 3 error codes (so far --- ;^) >> >> Many thanks, >> >> Neil. >> >> -- >> Neil Nicholson '81 JettaWesty "Jaco >> > http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engine > s >> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil >> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >> > -- Neil Nicholson '81 JettaWesty "Jaco http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines http://web.mac.com/tubaneil http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
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