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Subject:Re: Is there anything better than POR-15 Out there??
From:Ken & Sue
Date:Sun, 29 Jun 2008 09:07:51 -0400

Serious rust removal ?

Try RUST MORT.  I get it for about $20 a quart.  I see it go for much
higher.  Great stuff.  Try and clean up rusty spots first. brush on with
paint brush or spray on.  Let dry.  Reapply 2 or 3 more coats.  Metal turns
black.I did my Porsche 356 C gas cap which is very rusty.  Its kinda shinny
metal turned rusty.  I used Rust Mort on it and let it set up .  Did this
several times.  It turned like old flat black primer.  I thought , that's a
bummer.  I took Chrome cleaner with a scrubby pad, man tht ever shine up
almost like new.  I sprayed it with clear.  I love it.  I am SOLD.  I will
never will live without it.  Now, I am RUST MORT and POR 15 crazy.  You
gotta hold me down.  Your can prime over it and paint.  You can put POR 15
over it.  Thats a good way to go.  Did you know that on surfaces you can put
POR15 on with a paint brush and it dries smooth?  No paint brush strokes.
It does not fill up holes or pitts.  Buy POR 15 putty in a tube for that.
Great stuff.  Good luck.  I was successful. Hey, I will use this stuff even
when I die.  I will Por 15 my casket so that it will never rust out.  Ha!
It justa bout beats sandblasting.  What a mess that makes all over the place
not to mention it getting into everything like Jack R.'s  84 westie engine
seals.  Double bummer.

Ken Rogers
----- Original Message -----
From: "Max Wellhouse" <dimwittedmoose@CFU.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2008 3:58 AM
Subject: Is there anything better than POR-15 Out there??

> Troops:  If I decide to jump in with both feet and do some serious
> rust removal on my two Vanagons, is there a better product for
> treating the existing rust on the Vanagons than POR-15?  My own
> personal experience with the product has been mixed for sure.  I
> thought it would be the be all end all for redoing the rusty roof on
> our Chrysler Minivan, but after stripping the rood paint down to bare
> metal, sanding, painting the POR clear stuff on, scuffing that, and
> then painting the POR top coat over it,  all was well the first
> year.  By the time we junked out the car due to body damage, the POR
> was crumbling and flaking off at an alarming rate.  I used the Marine
> clean as directed, the metal prep as directed, and still this
> failure.  that's not going to happen with the Vanagons, so I'd like
> to hear of better products you've used that have withstood the test
> of time and salty winters.  I realize prep is key here, but the best
> prep can be ruined by inferior product.  Inquiring minds wanna know
>
> thanks
>
> DM&FS
>

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