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Subject:Re: why sell it? just scrap it. youll make more money.
From:Scott
Date:Thu, 3 Jul 2008 02:33:55 -0400

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Sure, and you're coming here for this process ? <BR>
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<span style="font-weight: bold;">On Wed Jul  2 23:20 , Neil2 <vidublu@gmail.com> sent:<BR>
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</vidublu@gmail.com></span><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(245, 245, 245); margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px; padding-left: 5px; padding-right: 0px;">Scott,<BR>

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Re: And i'm happy to help people fix and maintain their vanagons too.......<BR>

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I just bought an '86 Vanagon and it needs a thorough going over<BR>

(inspection/maintenance/repair/replace) and I need someone to give me a<BR>

crash course in Vanagon maintenance.<BR>

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Can we schedule a day or so to do it together?<BR>

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Neil2<BR>

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On 7/1/08, Scott Daniel - Shazam &lt;<a href="javascript:top.opencompose('scottdaniel@turbovans.com','','','')">scottdaniel@turbovans.com</a>&gt; wrote:<BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; Regardless of any of that, they are great very versitile, useful,</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; fixable vehciles - Vanagons are ............and they get fine mileage</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; for what they can carry and do. Whether haouuig stuff, or people, or</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; camping in it, or even living it - lot of van , german van</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; even.............for what they are.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; 84's in particular seem to bring 'nothing almost.'   Except for campers</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; of course.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; I got one ..............I was told it was an 86.............and I</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; asked............'like what - 300 bucks ? .......and the guy say yes'</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; ..........</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; I drove by, glanced at it - yep ........looks like an 86 ...........OK,</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; fine.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; Running too. No leaking heads either.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; I've never done this in my whole life - when the guy arrived with it, I</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; just told him where to park it.  I never even listened to it run or</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; anything..........</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; figured it was well worth it for the parts if nothing else.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; I look at it a little bit, and see that it's an 84 GL with retangular</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; headlights and late 'vanagon' trim on the back...........</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; So I ask for 50 bucks back.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; 250 for a running 84 .......and I didn't even have to test drive it or</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; go get it !!</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; I named it the Yard Dog, and I use it around my shop to haul gravel for</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; landscaping and road improvement, ............pull other vanagons</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; areound..........whatever.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; Lot of good van there if you know at all how to care for them.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; you talked about scarp.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; I think of the parts ..........I just bought an 87 Wolfsburg- has every</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; goodie - jump seats, cruise control, central locking ........fiberglass</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; bumnpers and the rear one is pretty goood too..................( not</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; running, overheated and half disassembled by an idiot ) ............but</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; the parts are worth more than the van itself, and with just an engine</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; and some care..............could be a fantastic deluxe vanaong.  I got</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; most of a set of the exact correct real Vanagon tires too on it.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; I think it's great fun to resore and refurmbish them back to full health.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; real soon I'll be having some camper vanaogns ready to sell.........and</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; tuned and restored to the max too, like ready to leave for alaska.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; all fun !</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; 'the problem' is a shortage of people that have the time, knowledge,</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; resoureces and skills, and perhaps money to take care of them really right.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; and they are NOT hard to fix or take care of really well. Getting some</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; shop to make it run right when it's say, having a fuel injection glitch</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; ............that CAN be hard to get............or people that have real</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; jobs and don't work on them full time, or have several parts vans to get</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; parts from - it's harder for them to really do justice to these fine</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; vehclies..........</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; .............but, there is a ton of life left in them ! The stay</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; amazingly valid in the current automotive world.........being 20 years,</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; or more, old too.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; And i'm happy to help people fix and maintain their vanagons too.......</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; I wonder how many there really are say, in North America.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; must be really a lot.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; and it makes me sick to see something like a 90 Carat that's not smashed</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; or rusted, being parted out in a junkyard, ........and just briefly too</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; - just whatever sells quickly- then crush it for scrape. You can't get</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; them back after that..........</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; and for the overall blend of what the vhecile is...........they are darn</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; good.  More modern stuff might get better mileage, or have ABS brakes,</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; or better aeriodyamics............but you can't work on them as much</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; yourself, they don't have generaou ground clearance.........etc. etc. etc.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;  I'd like to have an anti-scraping bumper sticker for Vanagons.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; scott</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; <a href="parse.pl?redirect=http://www.turbovans.com" target="_blank">www.turbovans.com</a></span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt; <a href="javascript:top.opencompose('JordanVw@AOL.COM','','','')">JordanVw@AOL.COM</a> wrote:</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; yea its a sad day when you can get more for a vehicle by scrapping it out</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; then selling it with issues..</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; scrap metal is way up..   the highest its been ever..   guys are trolling</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; the</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; neighborhoods with trucks and trailers, hauling cars out of peoples</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; backyards</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; or wherever, and just scrapping them, running or not.   i stopped a guy on</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; the way to the scrapyard with a '90 audi 200 turbo on his trailer..    the</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; car</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; ran and drove, but had a leaky PS rack.   he said he can get $700 for it</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; at the</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; scales just by scrapping it..</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; amazing.     it took me forever to sell a rust-free '84 sunroof van i had,</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; for a measly $400 when in reality i could have gotton almost twice that by</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; just</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; hauling it to the scrapyard where they wouldnt have given a flying fark if</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; the</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; heads leaked or not.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; "but your doing it for the love of the hobby"   meh.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; reality bites you in the ass.</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt; chris</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

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<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

<span style="color: red;">&gt;&gt;</span><BR>

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--<BR>

Neil2<BR>

'82 Diesel Westy (Duckie)<BR>

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