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Subject:Re: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
From:Chris S
Date:Wed, 9 Jul 2008 15:45:04 -0400

My '84 has 170K miles on it.

The complete engine I have, exhaust in mint condition and all cooling bits,
is from an '89 with 89K miles on it and known good history.

So all the parts I have are 5 years newer and have 80K fewer miles on them.

Does that help?

On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
sottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

> still don't get your logic. sorry.
> all i know is that TWENTY YEARS of typical miniman care is results in a
> vanagon that has dozens of tired things on it.
> it's what I see on almost all the vanagons I get. Takes me a long time to
> get every last little thing lubed or rust-treated or whatever.
> The vans are worth it though.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris S" <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 12:06 PM
>
> Subject: Re: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
>
>
>  Since you asked... 1984 + 5 = 1989
>>
>> They didn't stop selling Vanagons in the US until 1991, no?
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 2:39 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <
>> sottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>>
>>  except for the hose that goes above the auto trans bell housing on
>>> waterboxer vanagons.......
>>> their hoes are not the weak part at all !
>>> Especially the bigger hoses- there are tons of them over 20 years old
>>> working just fine.
>>>
>>> can't figure how you got your '5 years younger' number.
>>> an 85 Vanagon with 1.9 wbxr engine is 23 years old.
>>> an 86 with 2.1 engine  is only 22 years old.
>>> etc.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris S" <szpejankowski@GMAIL.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 11:08 AM
>>> Subject: Re: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Or the solution with the newest parts?  The cooling hoses, however
>>>
>>>> numerous,
>>>> on the 2.1L are 5 years younger.
>>>>
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Stuart MacMillan <macgroup@comcast.net
>>>> >
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  The only advantage to doing this is that you can keep the oil cooler
>>>> that
>>>>
>>>>> the 2.1 comes with, which was not installed on the 1.9.  But you'll
>>>>> need
>>>>> the
>>>>> exhaust system from a 2.1 as well.  On my '84 years ago I installed the
>>>>> cooler and filter remotely after tapping the 1.9 water pump (the 2.1
>>>>> pump
>>>>> is
>>>>> different) for hose fittings, and using a bypass plate with braided SS
>>>>> lines
>>>>> from Earl's Garage.
>>>>>
>>>>> Others on the list just left it off with no trouble.
>>>>>
>>>>> Consider all these decisions on this project as a variation on Occam's
>>>>> Razor--the solution with the fewest assumptions (i.e., parts) is the
>>>>> best.
>>>>>
>>>>> Stuart
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On
>>>>> Behalf
>>>>> Of
>>>>> Chris S
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:12 PM
>>>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>>> Subject: 2.1L into '84 Westy project - Cooling system question
>>>>>
>>>>> So I jumped in with both feet first.  I have COMPLEAT 2.1L engine
>>>>> sitting
>>>>> in
>>>>> my garage - coolant lines, coolant distributors, coolant crossover
>>>>> lines,
>>>>> coolant burp lines, and any other kind of lines,  FI stuff, intake,
>>>>> alternator, vacuum lines and so on.
>>>>>
>>>>> CAN I.. without losing many limbs in the process, make my COMPLEAT 2.1L
>>>>> cooling system hook up to my '84?  I'm looking at Bentley.. and it
>>>>> appears
>>>>> that with some minor tweaking I just might be able to pull it off... OR
>>>>> AM
>>>>> I
>>>>> CRAZY?
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S.  You'll see a few more silly question from me over the next few
>>>>> weeks,
>>>>> possibly with pictures, so please bear with my enthusiasm.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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