

| Subject: | Re: It works AND it's a scam Re: Water 4 Gas. com Does it work? Has Anyone Tried it? Know of It? |
| From: | Jake de Villiers |
| Date: | Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:02:19 -0700 |
Very nice Jim. Thoroughly researched and clearly delivered. Its the Bostig Way. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 11:43 PM, Jim Akiba <syncrolist@bostig.com> wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I went over to the website and had a look. I got a kick out of this > whole thing, it's a clever mis-direction... yeah exactly as the term > is used in magic tricks. The first part is getting you to suppose the > evaluation is "Is it a scam? Or does it work?" If you said that to > yourself reading this thread tonight, you're already trapped. That > means all I need to do is show you that it works, and you will believe > it is NOT a scam. As you know from my subject like this is indeed a > scam, AND it works. Here's how: > > On the website, you'll find the "Minimal System - The Secret Formula > They Don't Want You to Know" > > This is as Ozzie states: "ABSOLUTE MINIMUM you need to start SAVING > FUEL in your car:" Ozzie Freedom being his full name, Eyal Siman-Tov > being his real name via google, apparently he's an israeli IT guy by > profession. > > The "Minimal System" is these three things: > 1. The Electrolyzer produces Brown's Gas: Hydrogen & Oxygen for your > engine, > > 2. The MAP Sensor Enhancer tunes your computer to maximum fuel economy. > > 3. Several formulas given, mainly based on Xylene (Xylol) (some > also with Acetone). Xylene can be obtained cheaply from hardware > stores (paint department) and helps to atomize the fuel so it can be > broken easily into smaller particles. This enhances combustion and > saves much more money than it costs. > > Now. > > This combination of things can indeed give you some noticeable > increase in MPG, but it has nothing to do with the HHO mayo jar(#1).. > it's a red herring. > > A MAP(Manifold Absolute Pressure) sensor is a sensor that measures the > pressure of the intake manifold. Used in conjunction with rpm, air > temp, and barometric pressure it is used to calculate how much air is > entering the engine. Based on this information, the engine computer > meters fuel to target either stoich(short for stoichiometric or 14.7:1 > air fuel ratio for gas, which is emissions ideal) in "closed loop" > operation, the loop being closed by feedback from an O2 sensor, or > target Air fuel ratios contained within the Open loop fuel tables. > The important thing is if you affect the map sensor output, you can > fool the ecu into thinking there is less air entering the engine. That > is what device #2 on the "Minimal System" does. The #1 device is still > sitting in your car somewhere distracting you and your friends. > > So now we've fooled the engine into running lean, so what else tends > to happen when one runs an engine lean? Knock. Knock is when the > fuel/air mixture in the chamber explodes, normal controlled combustion > is not an "explosion" because the flame front(which is exactly what it > sounds like) moves outward from the ignition source through the > mixture cloud slower than the speed of sound. Knock/Detonation is bad. > It raises combustion pressures and temps high enough to cause damage. > High octane fuel suppresses the tendency to knock. It burns slower, > and pushes out the knock threshold by slowing the flame front. Xylene > is an octane booster. Anyone else see where this is going yet? The > last two are what get the real world boost in MPG, and the same idea > can be applied to any vehicle, with a slight variation if it isn't MAP > equipped... but similar piggybacked units can re-scale the air meter > input no matter the type to the same effect of fooling the ECU. If you > were to add enough Xylene and your engine management has knock sensor > advance capabilities(the ECU will advance spark above the borderline > knock spark tables when it is not seeing knock) which are not > uncommon, it would have very similar effects to race gas and > increasing spark advance deliberately. Advancing spark (to a point) > will yield increased fuel economy as well. > > So would it work? Sure would, especially if you have an old/dying MAP > sensor, when they get old they tend to send you rich... so. Say you > were running 20% rich from an old MAP, then you add the #2 device and > not only correct the rich condition, but lean it out an additional > 15%.. boom a real world actual measurable increase in MPG of a > whopping 35%!! Throw in another 10% for different gas pumps, > inaccurate speedos, or just plain mis-calculation and WoW!! AWESOME!!! > 45% jump in MPG!!!! And it is awesome because it's kinda true. But > it's not awesome for the reasons anyone thinks it's awesome. > > Similar to the electric superchargers on ebay at times. I mean the > tiny computer fan setups.. they don't do anything. But if you read the > feedback they have customer after customer praising the nice increase > in power they got and how happy they are. But again, nobody understand > that it's the removal of the factory airbox/paper filter and > replacement with a cone filter that comes with the "supercharger" than > is causing the uptick in power. So again, it works AND it's a scam. > > Hope this helps, > > Jim Akiba > -- Jake 1984 Vanagon GL 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" Crescent Beach, BC www.crescentbeachguitar.com http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27
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