I was the one that said that fiberglass or expanding foam in-a-can was a
bad idea.  It sounds like you're referring to styrofoam  board for use as
insulation.  This may be a good idea, but whatever you decide to use, it has
to allow moisture to escape.  If it absorbs/ holds water, or traps it
against the steel body, it will accelerate the rust problems.

Mike B.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: http://www.bulley-hewlett.com/VWindex lost?

> someone commented that fiberglass insulation retains water, badly.
> And I woudl agree.........that in a situation where a vanagon can't get
> well
> dried out during the winter.........
> that having fiberglass in say, the sliding door, is not a good idea.
>
> when I find time on my own 85 Wofsburg Weekender, I'm going to
> heat-inulate
> the sliding door with that white hard faom stuff........forget what it's
> called right now.
>  I feel sorry for vanagons that have to live outside full time in the
> winter in fairly  harsh climates.......which means everywhere besides the
> dry west  pretty much.   It's either wet, or salty, or both in a lot of
> places.
>
> there are quite a few good trreatments to stop rust, and to prevent it.
> Especially the stuff that turns rust to primered metal.
> I find myself applying a lot of it............all the time. Especially in
> crevices, like the bottom insides of doors.
> Any paint bubbles i see, I pick down to the bare metal underneath. Got to,
> it'll only get worse left alone.
> For a hole right thourgh the metal - I fill those with professional grade
> body repair materials.
>  As long as it's not exensive body cancer..........not to hard to repair
> very nicely.
> scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Greg Potts" <greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 12:39 PM
> Subject: Re: http://www.bulley-hewlett.com/VWindex lost?
>
>
>> Hi Scott,
>>
>> I think that was possibly the root of the problem... Once the noise and
>> heat insulation was applied it allowed rust to get a grip on areas where
>> it was no longer easy to detect. Which is why I brought it up, as the
>> same thing could just as easily happen to a vanagon...
>>
>>
>> Happy Trails,
>>
>> Greg Potts
>> 1973/74/79 Westfakia "Bob the Tomato"
>> 1987 Wolfsburg Weekender Hardtop
>> www.busesofthecorn.com
>> www.pottsfamily.ca
>>
>> Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>>
>>> Are people not routinely treating surface rust............it's super
>>> easy to
>>> stop rust before it gets very bad, like even in, literally, 2 minutes.
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Greg Potts" <greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2008 10:54 AM
>>> Subject: Re: http://www.bulley-hewlett.com/VWindex lost?
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>
>>>> That particular site has been offline for five years now.
>>>>
>>>> The material posted was too good to let get away, has since been
>>>> retrieved from archive.org and posted to a new server. It has been
>>>> mirrored at http://www.shagadelic.org/VW/info/gmbulley-soundproof/
>>>>
>>>> One word of caution... I have heard it said that the Bulley-hewitt bus
>>>> eventually found a new owner, and when they took a closer look at it
>>>> they found that it had acquired a LOT of rust. Some of the procedures
>>>> in
>>>> the sound and heat pages may have contributed to this.
>>>>
>>>> Happy Trails,
>>>>
>>>> Greg Potts
>>>> 1973/74/79 Westfakia "Bob the Tomato"
>>>> 1987 Wolfsburg Weekender Hardtop
>>>> www.busesofthecorn.com
>>>> www.pottsfa
>>>>
>>>> Michael Diehr wrote:
>>>>> Vangon.com links to http://www.bulley-hewlett.com/VWindex which
>>>>> appears to lost its domain registration.
>>>>>
>>>>> Fortunately, archive.org has copies of the material :
>>>>>  http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.bulley-hewlett.com/VWindex
>>>>>
>>>>> Can someone track down the current URL if it's simply moved, and/or
>>>>> copy the info to the wiki if it's lost for good?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> mily.ca
>>>
>>
>>
>> --