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Subject:Re: How to access exterior slider track
From:Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Date:Mon, 28 Jul 2008 12:25:27 -0700

that's all pretty correct I'm sure ...........but it's not a V-12 Volkswagen engine, it's a W-12, I believe.  
Suprised Japanese companies didn't buy Rolls and Bentley. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Roger Whittaker 
  To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans 
  Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com 
  Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 10:26 AM
  Subject: Re: How to access exterior slider track

  dear all rolls royce (Model Vanagon) owners 
  it has occured to me that the new plant discussed for Tennessee 
  will indeed produce the latest Rolls Royce offering ...
  wikipedia says ... 

  BMW and Volkswagen split the brands
  BMW obtained an interest in Rolls-Royce and Bentley in the 1990s, and began supplying them with engines in 1998, specifically a V12 for the Rolls-Royce Silver Seraph and a twin-turbo 4.4 L V8 to replace the 6.75 L for the Bentley Arnage. BMW V8 engines were used exclusively in the Bentley Arnage from 1998 to 2000, and were steadily phased out from 2000 to 2002.

  In 1998, Volkswagen and BMW reached an agreement. Volkswagen outbid BMW and paid �430 million to permanently have Bentley; additionally, they would have permission to produce current models of Rolls-Royce Motors until 2003, at which time BMW would retain exclusive rights to the Rolls-Royce franchise under the name Rolls-Royce Motor Cars.

  BMW does not own the rights to produce any pre-2003 Rolls-Royce or Bentley engines. The current Rolls-Royce Phantom and its derivatives use a naturally-aspirated BMW V12 engine. Though it also displaces 6.75 L, it has no technical similarities with the old V8.

  Under Volkswagen, the Arnage ditched the BMW engine and went back to the old turbocharged 6.75 L V8. The Arnage-derived Brooklands uses the most powerful version of the engine yet. Both models remain in production alongside newer, VW-designed Bentleys based on the Continental GT.

  On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 10:13 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:

    well they used to be.
    now VW owns Bentley, and BMW owns Rolls, or it's the other way around.
    and they come with VW or BMW engines too, the newer models anyway.

    ----- Original Message -----
    From: "Kim Brennan" <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
    To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>

    Sent: Monday, July 28, 2008 9:41 AM
    Subject: Re: How to access exterior slider track

      Why not a Rolls Royce? They are very much the same...

      :P

      On Jul 28, 2008, at 11:43 AM, Roger Whittaker wrote:

        dear all
        before attempting any procedure on a vanagon
        the very first thing to do is buy a BENTLEY ...

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