

| Subject: | Re: Engine Replacement Options |
| From: | neil N |
| Date: | Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:43:06 -0700 |
Soon soon.... Gotta find out where the exhaust leak is..... that happened as I was ascending my driveway! (after a ~500 KM "shake down - drive it hard sometimes - tackle a little forestry road" trip) And yes the video shows the leak! Check my pmail to ya. Neil. On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 2:04 PM, Jake de Villiers <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey that's great Neil! When do I get a ride? > > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 11:34 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Seems so! --- :^) >> >> Removed the "coil" relay, replaced it with #12 wire from 15 to Jetta >> coil. The relay inadvertently got power from alternator blue wire, >> through instrument panel, to 15 then back to the "coil" relay which >> kept it on. >> >> Drove my "handbrake only" shut off route. Engine shut off properly. >> Bonus: restarts warm/up to temp with less cranking. >> >> Thanks to Mark Drillock and Dennis Haynes, (and my relentless pursuit >> of happiness), the culprit was found. >> >> Originally I thought heat was keeping the coil relay on. (relay box >> was close to exhaust. I moved it) >> >> IMHO, my reason for installing it was sound, but was the wrong >> solution. The Jetta coil/*part* of ECU get power from a #12 wire in >> the Jetta harness. Being larger than the #16 Vanagon coil wire, I was >> concerned about exceeding the limits of the #16 wire. >> >> FWIW, you can *just* fit a #12, and the two black 15 wires into a #10 >> female push on connector. >> >> And yes. Soon. He shall be christened. >> >> I hope to do a "shake down" over night up at Nairn falls soon. First I >> gotta replace the rear shoes. One set is cracking. :( >> >> Neil. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 10:27 AM, Jake de Villiers >> <crescentbeachguitar@gmail.com> wrote: >> > So you fixed the handbrake/engine turning off thing Neil? >> > >> > You're talking like its all over, in which case we should have a Launch >> > Party and break a beer over your van's nose! :) >> > >> > On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 9:49 AM, neil N <musomuso@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Re: #1 >> >> >> >> A fellow on the samba list, "tencentlife", seems to have a good rep >> >> with his wbx rebuilds. Might be worth checking out. >> >> >> >> From what I've heard, GEX rebuilts has a poor rep. FWIW.... >> >> >> >> Re: #2 and #3. And this is the POV of a first timer and just my .02 >> >> >> >> Buying a used turnkey engine, or install kits, will save time if it's >> >> all there and working. And not that you asked but..... >> >> >> >> Depending on your wheeling/dealing skills and level of understanding >> >> in what's needed for a conversion, IF you choose to cobble parts >> >> together or part out a Vanagon and cobble parts together, this will >> >> likely increase your project time substantially. But, you MAY save >> >> money. From my POV, and in hindsight, the saved money weighed against >> >> spending more on a kit, hardly seems worth it. Remember this; you are >> >> already saving a bunch by doing it yourself. On my project I cobbled >> >> and built parts from scratch. I also removed parts from a Vanagon. >> >> Took WAY more time. No regrets as I learned a lot, but there were >> >> times when a kit or used turnkey setup looked really attractive! --- >> >> :^) >> >> >> >> Wiring? A bit apples to oranges, but I installed a Jetta 2.0 with >> >> Motronic 2.9 (OBD1). It has at least 7 sensors for the engine >> >> management. Depending on the year, the 2.2 may be similar. The hardest >> >> parts, for me were finding all the flaws in a 15 YO wiring harness and >> >> learning how to properly read the Bentley wiring diagrams, and tracing >> >> (confirming) every wire with a VOM. (ECU to all the plugs etc.) >> >> >> >> There are people/companies that can do the harness for you but if you >> >> did it yourself, and IMHO, the Suby swap is documented way better than >> >> what I did so the wiring harness would be easier. And.... >> >> >> >> .... if I can do the wiring job, most anyone can. I had a little >> >> experience playing around with radios as a kid, and had a very basic >> >> understanding of DC/AC circuits, knew how to solder, so this helped. >> >> Still, it was very *basic*. But, I got it done. (with a little help >> >> from this list --- ;^) >> >> >> >> It looks like your $ estimate is similar for #2 and #3. >> >> >> >> Personally, I'd go for #2. Likely the engine is "stock" and you might >> >> be able to find out how many actual miles are on the engine. >> >> >> >> IMHO, most people care a LOT about their conversion, but you never >> >> know what mayhem has gone on in another conversion install. And why >> >> are they selling it? Of course this is true for any vehicle, but just >> >> a thought. >> >> >> >> IMHO, keep your options and your eyes open. You never know what may >> >> show >> >> up. >> >> >> >> Cheers, >> >> >> >> Neil. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 8:40 AM, Jon Rizzo <the_rizzos@mac.com> wrote: >> >> > I feel I am at an impasse regarding the replacement of the engine my >> >> > syncro westy. I am definitely on a pretty tight budget (under4000) >> >> > but >> >> > don't want to cut corners that will only cost me money later. I have >> >> > have spent the last month researching options. I have narrowed it >> >> > down >> >> > to three choices and I would love to have the opinions of this board. >> >> > >> >> > 1) rebuilt wbx motor, I know bus depot has them available but I am >> >> > unsure about their rebuilder even after speaking with them on the >> >> > phone. I can't get Boston Bob to return my phone calls soo... cost >> >> > 1800-2800 plus my labor >> >> > >> >> > 2) used 2.2, smallcar parts kit. I have a neighbor with a 92 legacy >> >> > that could part out to save some money, but I am nervous about the >> >> > wiring part even though I have some experience in that area. cost >> >> > 2450-3450 plus my labor, minus what I could part out the legacy wagon >> >> > for. >> >> > >> >> > 3) used 2wd vanagon with a 2.2 conversion already in place that I >> >> > could then part out and recoup some of my money. This seems to be my >> >> > best option as I could drive the van and could make sure all the >> >> > parts >> >> > work together and who doesn't need more spare parts around? cost >> >> > 3000-3500 >> >> > >> >> > Let me know what you think. >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Neil Nicholson '81 JettaWesty "Jaco >> >> >> >> >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines >> >> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil >> >> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Jake >> > 1984 Vanagon GL >> > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" >> > Crescent Beach, BC >> > www.crescentbeachguitar.com >> > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> Neil Nicholson '81 JettaWesty "Jaco >> >> http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines >> http://web.mac.com/tubaneil >> http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > > > > -- > Jake > 1984 Vanagon GL > 1986 Westy Weekender "Dixie" > Crescent Beach, BC > www.crescentbeachguitar.com > http://subyjake.googlepages.com/mydixiedarlin%27 > -- Neil Nicholson '81 JettaWesty "Jaco http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines http://web.mac.com/tubaneil http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/
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