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Subject:Re: towing with a vanagon in an emergency.(NVC) . .
From:Roger Whittaker
Date:Tue, 19 Aug 2008 13:00:13 -0700

dear all with timing issues
i find it interesting that almost a lot of these rubber timing belts call
for a change out at 60K miles
our 89 OEM diesel was slated for a change out last january and failed on the
way to go westy where i was going to purchase the kit _ drat should have
ordered it and changed before i set out
that procrastination cost a few $$$ but on the up side
- meet the wonderful people at wagon works in garden city idaho
- installed a new 1.9 diesel  in my 89 -
- found/purchased an original signed Norman Rockwell at a really neat art
show in down town boise (it was a special  large piece created as a gift for
the previous owner)
(complete with documented authenticity)
-spent 10 days in boise --
very cool town with lots of way too neat stuff
so--- as with all adventures ... what looks like a lemon can easily be lemon
aid
more to the point - it is not what you get - but what you become ...
and the list grows and grows -
-some coolant issues with the new install forced us to stay 10 days in
ashland oregon -
-met scott in medford

The list of good and wonderful things as a result of this "failure" on my
part to heed the odometer reading caused many wonderful events to include me
and my beloved cause we were there -

the ship wrecks of life are simply opportunities to explore where you are
deposited -
yours

On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 11:42 AM, Mark Tuovinen <mst@ak.net> wrote:

> Brendan,
>
>  At that mileage and age it was past its recommended service life.  Honda
> calls for replacement at 84 months(7 years) or 105,000 miles under "normal"
> driving conditions, which ever comes first.  In severe service usage they
> recommend to  "Replace the belt at 60,000 miles (U.S.) or 100,000 km
> (Canada) if you regularly drive your vehicle in one or
> more of these conditions: In very high temperatures (over 110�F,43�C). In
> very low temperatures (under � 20�F, � 29�C)." AHM 1999 CR-V Owners Manual.
>  Here we usually replace them around 75,000 miles and that is also a
> recommended coolant change point, which we do in conjuntion with the timing
> belt and water pump.
>
> Unfortunately you could have bent all 16 valves, we have seen this happen
> with this engine.  A leak down test will tell you, but it is a safe bet that
> one or more valves have bent.  If you are going to do the repair yourself
> and need any parts or technical advice feel free to pmail me, I have a shop
> full of Honda technicians, factory service manuals, and the parts catalog at
> my disposal.  Overall the CR-V is a pretty reliable vehicle if properly
> maintained, other than basic tune up parts, fluid changes, timing belt at
> proper interval, and an occasional valve adjustment, they will run for a
> long time.
>
> Mark in AK
> Assistant Parts Manager
> Continental Honda
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Brendan Slevin <totorovan@GMAIL.COM>
> Date: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:54 am
> Subject: Re: towing with a vanagon in an emergency. . .
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
> > It had 98k when we bought it last September and it has about 102k now, we
> mostly drive the Vanagon.  I had, of course the intention of doing the
> timing belt soon.  :(  I guess I should've just done it when we got it, not
> having any history on the car.  Lesson learned, severely.
> >
> > Brendan
> >
> > > On Tue, Aug 19, 2008 at 1:17 AM, Brendan Slevin
> > <totorovan@gmail.com>wrote:>
> > >> I just did.  I towed our RELIABLE car, a 1999 Honda CRV about two
> miles to our house after the timing belt snapped while my wife was driving.
>  Thank  you *so* very much, Honda, for not jumping on any bandwagons and
> producing an *interference* engine; even though she was just barely driving
> when it happend I bet I've got a bent valve or 16.  F#@$!!!  Sorry to vent,
> I know its not friday.  Seriously, that is our "reliable" and I've had to do
> more sh^% to it I swear.  It's also our first car payment, lame when I have
> to write that check this month while its torn apart in the driveway.  My
> wife said when we got home, I think when the Honda's paid off we should sell
> it and buy a 91 Vanagon.  I agree whole-heartedly.  Anyway, Totoro
> > was happy to oblige me and didn't complain once, I think she was actually
> happy with that  yellow umbilicus dragging the "nice" car into the driveway.
>  I think>> towing with a strap is illegal in Oregon but we waited till about
> 8:30pm with less
> > >> traffic, used our headlights and flashers on both cars and had radio>>
> communication the whole time.  A cop passed us but didn't care.>> How can I
> tell if I bent a valve without taking the head off?  Could I use a leak down
> test and if I can't get one to hold any pressure at all I know it's bent?
> > >>
> > >> brendan slevin
> > >> 84 GL Totoro
> > >> Bend, Oregon
>

-- 
roger w
There are two kinds of jobs in the world:
Picking up garbage and telling people things.
Successful people do both, with the same good attitude. (riw)
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