As I said in the previous thread on this, if the system was upgraded I would
personally still use the email form of it. I'm more concerned with the state
of the infrastructure, and moving it to, or at least tying it to a more
modern platform would provide a lot of benefits on the nuts-and-bolts-end (a
usable archive, greater stability, control for the moderator), plus it would
give options for users, which would be helpful when travelling, for
instance.
If it was properly set up in the parallel form, the bulletin board side of
it would be transparent to those that chose to use email and vice-versa.

Cya,
Robert

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Rob
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2008 8:28 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Modernizing the list redux; was: RE: Who is the Manager of this
list?

If the list isn't working out for you there are other more modern
formats and if they are not right then make your own. It comes down
to the question, 'if you really feel the format needs to be changed
then why not just do it?'

I'm not being a wiseass, I just like it the way it is, if I didn't
I'd be at a Samba forum. I am having trouble understanding why people
are dealing with the e-mail format when they don't like it and there
are other options.

Rob
becida@comcast.net

At  8/26/2008 07:41 AM,Neil2 wrote:
>I use it as Miguel does but I agree, it needs to change, pronto.  If a
>solution to please the 'plankowners' and the newbies can be implemented
it's
>the only wise thing to do before we lose what we have to
>accident/obsolescence.
>
>On Mon, Aug 25, 2008 at 5:22 PM, Robert Fisher <refisher@mchsi.com> wrote:
>
> > We just went over this. The categories idea wouldn't work for various
> > reasons, but the list could be put on a BB with parallel email
> functionality
> > which imho would be the best of both worlds. However, the guy that could
do
> > it doesn't have possession of the server (which isn't actually a show
> > stopper as I understand it) and the grumpy old fart contingent has been
> > vocal in their opposition (not that it would affect them in any
practical
> > sense); added to that, I've yet to see much come from any grand ideas
put
> > forth on the list, the Wiki being a minor exception and that mostly due
to
> > the dogged persistence of Mr. Squirrel. Additionally, I think the lack
of
> > options coupled with the volume of posts is a turn-off to potential
members
> > who by now are used to a more modern internet experience, and what
doesn't
> > grow, dies.
> >
> > My greatest concern about the current state versus the state of the art
is
> > that the server is physically in the hands of an inattentive
> host, to put it
> > kindly, and the software is ancient in computer terms; I'm afraid
> this means
> > that at some point modernization will be forced on us due to some future
> > major failing of the system that will be beyond our means to
> easily solve. I
> > think there's a fair chance that the list will die or at least be
severely
> > crippled if that happens, probably due to a prolonged shutdown, among
other
> > things.
> >
> > I really think we should address this before we get to that point.
> >
> > Cya,
> > Robert
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of
> > miguel pacheco
> > Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 4:25 PM
> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > Subject: Re: Who is the Manager of this list?
> >
> > I ain't grumpy and welcome change, but I sure like it the way it is. I
> > have mine going to my Gmail and rarely visit Vanagon.com............
> >
> > Gracias,
> >                    Miguel
> >