

| Subject: | Re: Engine Replacement or Gasket Fix? |
| From: | Robert Stewart |
| Date: | Sat, 23 Aug 2008 11:36:39 -0400 |
So no responses to the photo's? or the other questions? R On Aug 22, 2008, at 3:17 PM, Robert Stewart wrote: > I took some shots of the engine underneath so you can the leaks, its > much worse on the left side of the van. The right one appears minor. > > To refresh this a 2.1 L auto, Wolfsburg edition. Mobil1 15/50 oil > synthetic used for over 3 yrs now. Prestone Phosphate free coolant. > Transmission was rebuilt 2 years ago. > > The thermostat housing edges started to melt at the edge where it > meets the body of the engine, so I am replacing that. You will photo's > of what I mean below: > > http://gallery.me.com/rmstewart#100072 > > It sound as thought from what Dennis said that a compression test > might still be a good idea just to gauge the health of the engine. I > was told it takes an hour to do, correct? > > The fuel lines were replaced by the previous owner but I was going to > them as well just to be safe, as some will remember that is how I lost > my first Van in December of 2001 next to Rockefeller center in NYC. > > The other issue the powersteering pump has the connector on it to be > connected to something and I can't find anything in the engine bay > that looks remotely disconnected and hanging. I am completely at a > loss. > > If I do the job with a mechanic I think it will be with the place that > opened up as they seem the most pro and have someone locally that do > the head resurfacing if needed. > > Still undecided on the next steps. > > R > > On Aug 22, 2008, at 2:32 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: > >> Depends on the brand of new head. >> I'm not impressed with AMC heads and have a flat 'wrong' with about >> 10,000 >> miles on it - dimensionally, it's off significantly concerning the >> outer >> water gasket. >> >> I much prefer good used heads gone through. >> what do you mean by 'machined' ?? >> >> If you mean new valves and guides, or knurled guides and cleaned up >> valves..........that's generally called a 'valve job' and not >> 'machined'. >> As long as valve guides fit tightly .......... >> a head can be brought back to spec numerous times. >> There are valve guides that are oversize on the outside so they'll >> fit >> tightly like they should, should that be needed. >> It's possible to replace valve seats too. >> my point is...........sure, they can only last through so many valve >> jobs, >> but they can take several valve jobs unless cracked etc. >> And yes, of course, it's VERY possible for a machine shop to do it >> wrong. >> You bethcha !! >> >> There is also resurfacing them on the flat bottom part, and then >> taking a >> like amount of material from the combustion chamber area, and >> checking/adjusting the 'step distance' between those two spots - >> which >> determines the how much the outer water gasket gets compressed. >> And that dimension is a funky area. And that's what is WAY off >> about the >> near-new AMC head I have still. >> >> You ask about reconditioned heads - I think it was TRW ........might >> have >> been......... >> back when I worked on air-cooled VW's. Those were notorious for >> being >> funky. Perhaps it was for Type IV air-cooled engines - valve seats >> falling >> out or whatever. So I'm not so sure I like out of the box rebuilt >> heads, >> but that's an option for sure. >> >> I much prefer to take a decent of good used heads to a machine shop, >> and >> have them do good valve work to it. >> I've not bothered with waterboxer heads, but there is also getting >> them >> pressure tested .....to check for cracks and places coolant might >> sneak to >> someplace it's not supposed to be. >> >> These $ 1000 new heads. Is that VW OEM ? >> Those I might be inclined to like. >> But normally...........it's good VW heads, to a good machine shop - >> is what >> I prefer. >> Scott >> www.turbovans.com >> >> >> >> >> if too small, the rubber gasket pinches. ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "B Feddish" <bfeddish@NETREACH.NET> >> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> >> Sent: Friday, August 22, 2008 5:38 AM >> Subject: New vs. machined heads, a spinnoff of Engine Replacement or >> Gasket >> Fix? >> >> >>> I'm going to be in the same situation as Robert this winter and >>> I'll be >>> having my 1.9 rebuilt. One of the big expenses appears to be the >>> heads. >>> What is the advantage of buying new heads, vs, reconditioned heads >>> vs. >>> having a machine shop do them? Let's say my current engine has >>> gone 80K >>> miles on it's last set of machined heads. That was fine with me as >>> the >>> rebuild was dirt cheap. Am I only getting longetivity with new >>> heads or >>> are >>> they much more reliable? Can the machine shop do it "wrong"? Are >>> reconditioned ones a good compromise? >>> >>> Heads come up allot here and I'm trying to determine if that extra >>> $1000 >>> expense is worth it if I'm fine with my next rebuilt not being able >>> to >>> make >>> it to 200K. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Bryan
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