

| Subject: | Re: Was: Re: John Wessels Glori's --- Now: California Engine Conversions |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Fri, 5 Sep 2008 13:24:45 -0700 |
I don't think it's free. the last conversion I had to a Ca smog ref in Redding ....... it was a fully perfect OBD-I SVX in a Synco Westy ....... the smog ref was new on the job, and didn't want to take any chances ....... he said..........since those headers are not certified KEP ones, I can take your 70 dollars, run the test, and fail you, or we can stop right now for free. Very likely obd-II zetecs can get through a smog ref on an individual basis, but not always 'for sure' ..........depends on who you get and how they feel that day, and if bosses are around etc. ..... what a fun game ! And funny thing is ..........this is a major major 'ha ha' to me. It's almost like they conspire to force people to be creative ...........it's like the smog refs themselvs recongize the silliness of the official system ( needing the stock trans that came with the engine ..........that's silly, and they recongize that , many of them, fortunately ) .....and they will bend a little where they think it'll be all right. I'm sure thankful for that. But nobody evidently has the balls or smarts to say 'let's make a system that reflects the real world, and is practical and makes sense. Heck, they should make 'only' OBD-II"s cerifiable, if they are to pick any group by OBD level to be 'good'. and afterall, being government, it's impractical to hope that they could actually be practical about it - they should PAY US to put in later model cleaner running , more fuel effecient engines for gosh sakes, not make it difficult and nearly impossible. But alas, expecting anything practical or sensical from goverment is a lost hope, eveidently. ----- Original Message ----- From: "BenT Syncro" <syncro@GMAIL.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2008 1:10 PM Subject: Re: Was: Re: John Wessels Glori's --- Now: California Engine Conversions > My guess, aside from lack of information, is that most people want to save > money for lab testing. It's a gamble and can be a PITA to take a > conversion > to a BAR referee. But last time I checked, it was still free. In my > experience, most referees in my area are themselves enthusiasts who just > happen to be subcontracted by the State of California to review and > certify > things like engine swaps/conversions. On many occasions, I've had referees > tell me to go home (or around the corner) to do this and that to get the > conversion certified. On one occasion, I was even advised to look for a > specific engine number which though virtually identical to one I was > considering but not required to have certain emission parts simply because > of a model designation. > > Where there's a will, there's a way. If $3K is your way, them more power > to > you. It's available out there. But before you spend that kind of money, it > can't hurt to try the referee first. If was hurting (or can afford ) a > Zetec > right now, I bet I can figure out a way to get it certified. > > =) > > Cheers, > > > BenT > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 5, 2008 at 11:22 AM, Jeff <vw.doka@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My guess is that not too people doing engine conversions are Registered >> Importers who have to get vehicles tested and certified for California on >> a >> regular basis? >> >> That's probably why it's not well known. >> >> Jeff
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