Chris,

I posted this for Andrew without actually reading it. All out Vanagons are
T3's. Just like the US, the UK got a special name for their T3's they call
them T25's.

A Baywinow bus is actually a T2.

1954-1967 Type II T1
1968-1979 Type II T2
1980-1992 Type II T3
1993-2003 Type III T4
2003-present Type II T5

Actually the T4 was out in Europe a couple of years or so earlier. We call
them Eurovan. We never got the T5's. After European production of the T3
stopped, the tooling was moved to South Africa where they continued making
the T3 as late as 2002. Although
they were called Caravelle and Microbus over there, they are still all T3's.

The "Bug Fest" Andrew referred to might be "Van Fest" which is a hugely
popular VW van event in the UK. The chopped and lowered
T25 can technically be referred to as a Vanagon or T3 but since the it was
made out of the remains of an English version, it was a
heavily modified "T25".

Cheers,

BenT

On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 5:25 PM, Chris S <szpejankowski@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've seen the Vanagon called T25 on many a German sites.  I've no idea what
> the distinction is between a T3 and a T25.
>
> Thanks to Google I've a British site that uses the term as well.
> http://www.vwt3busters.com/history.htm
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 6, 2008 at 2:55 AM, BenT Syncro <syncro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> FORWARDED for:  Andrew Grebneff
>>
>>
>> From: "Kathleen Grebneff" <kgrebneff@shaw.ca>
>> To: <vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com>
>> Subject: Re: lowered and "chopped" Vanagon
>> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 22:36:41 -0600
>>
>> At 05:55 PM 26/07/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>  Hey Scot,
>>
>>  "I wonder if it's narrowed too.
>>  or if it's even really a heavily modified vanagon."
>>
>>  Yes it was a 3 day mod from an original T25 according to their website
>>  www.justkampers.com - at a festival called "Bug Fest". Some =
>> interesting
>>  stuff on there too including 17" alloys for vanagons - always though =
>> that
>>  16" was our limit.... Ooop's lets not start another wheel and tire =
>> thread!
>>
>> Please...
>>
>> Type 25 or T3. There is no such thing as a T25. The T stands for =
>> Transporter; a T25 would be a Bay.
>>
>> T3 wheels... 18" at least, and at the rear 11" wide without modifying =
>> the body or suspension.
>>
>> Regards
>> Andrew
>
>