

| Subject: | Re: Question about temp II sensor and bad running |
| From: | Jake Beaulieu |
| Date: | Thu, 11 Sep 2008 11:27:38 -0700 |
Hey Jim, � I suggest testing the temp II sensor.� I don't have the Bentley in front of me so I can't direct you to the right page, but it is easy.� You stick one lead of a mulitmeter to the wire coming from the temp II sensor, and connect the other lead to a ground (i.e. the base of the sensor).� Measure the resistance as the van warms up and compare to the Bentley specs.� If the sensor checks out fine, then make sure that the signal is actually making it to the ECU.� This can be done by removing the harness plug from the ECU and inserting your multimeter leads into the pins for the Temp II sensor.� I don't know which pins they are off the top of my head, but its in the Bentley.� If everything is good, you will get the same readings you got at the sensor.� If you don't, then you likely have a broken wire in the harness.� They may be other temperature related FI items that I am not aware of.� All of my experience is with air cooled Vanagons.� Is there a water temp sensor that sends info to the ECU?� If so, I am sure it can be tested. Do the water cooled vans have a thermo-time switch, aux air valve, or cold start injector?� These are all temp sensitive items in air cooled vans that might produce the symptoms you describe when defective. I agree with your conclusion that the symptoms are not consistent with a faulty ECU.� When mine went bad it would run fine until I hit a bump on the road, then it would bog down and die.� I would usually have to tap it again to get it going.� However, if there was a connection in the ECU that�finally gave out completely, it might produce the symptoms you describe.� Sure would be nice if you could swap in a known good ECU. � Good luck. jake --- On Thu, 9/11/08, Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> wrote: From: Jim Felder <jim.felder@GMAIL.COM> Subject: Question about temp II sensor and bad running To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM Date: Thursday, September 11, 2008, 12:18 PM I'm starting a new thread on this because I am desperate to get the van running... wife doesn't have a car without it right now. In the earlier threads I started on this subject, I had the car stranded at walmart. Removed the distributor for examination and when I went back this morning, it started right up... meaning that something in the car cooled down and the start was a coincidence or else fiddling with the distributor connection solved the no-start problem. Then another problem appeared or else there was a related problem I don't get. The car ran great for less than a minute and then started running horribly. I barely made it home two miles away with a spot or two of running great, but mostly horribly. I have started it many times through the morning and afternoon. Same thing always happens: starts great, runs strong, 30 seconds or a minute later it's stumbling and then it stalls. I can do this until the engine gets warm or let it cool and try it, the same thing happens. I removed the wires to the temp II sensor and jumpered the sensor connections. No change. I removed the jumper. No change. Ken Lewis has written and says it may yet be the hall effect sensor or the ECU, but I don't understand how a bad connection or failed sensor could create such a predictable situation of starting and then running more and more poorly until a stall. Maybe it could, but I don't get how. Any ideas? Thanks for hanging in there with me, Jim
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