

| Subject: | Re: Tune Up or Not? |
| From: | Jim Cochran |
| Date: | Mon, 15 Sep 2008 11:00:43 -0700 |
I totally agree. I used to get the job done to just get the job done. Not anymore, and it make a difference. Even with that, I pack all my tools, fluids and a cell phone before I test drive my work any distance. We're all human, and a moment of distraction or forgetfulness can mean a long, drawn out and always expensive, repair down the road (literally!) And, then, the same can be said for the guys that made and QC'd the part! It's a wonder ANYTHING runs at all! Jim C On Sep 15, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote: > 1. the tune up parts themselves, in waterboxer vanagons, especially > if real > Bosch ones, last REALLY well, and are not the weak link at at. > 2. it takes about 4 to 6 minutes to look under the distributor cap and > remove one spark plug for inspection. > 3. whenever you touch or work on a car, you introduce > opportunities for > something to be different, or not right, when it might have been > just fine > beforehand. I would not, for example, change the fuel lines and then > hand > the van over to someone to go on a trip. > That is REALLY asking for trouble. You don't truly, truly know your > fuel > line work is good until the thing has worked properly for a few > weeks, and > you've inspected your work a time or two in the meantime. > 4. Really............here is a Scott Foss Turbovans Shazam quote : > > "It's not the parts, it's the workmanship." > > people think 'changing parts' is fixing cars. It's not. The real > repair and > improvement, or restoration back to full health relies about 80 % on > workmanship, and only 20 % on the parts installed. > Example : .......tdi sycnro Vanagon, Symptom : horrible 2nd gear > sycnro > action. A shop changed the pilot bearing, which was toast........The > shop > installs a waterboxer pilot bearing with just *nothing* for a pilot > bearing > dust seal. That pilot bearing will just turn to dust, like the > first one > did, in maybe two and a half years, and then like the first > incorrect pilot > bearing, it'll contribute to tearing up the 1,500 dollar or whatever > it was > sycnro transmission rebuild job. > A proper diesel pilot bearing with built in dust seal is the right > part. > About half the waterboxer clutches I take apart..........the felt > dust ring > seal is missing, because the little metal ring that retains it is > missing, > likely because it was removed by the machine shop to surface the > flywheel. > They of course forget about that tiny part. The shop forgets about > it, It > goes back together with no pilot brg. dust seal..........and a few > years > later, the little rollers are rusty dust. > I see this ALL THE TIME. > > it's the Workmanship, not the parts. > > And when I work on vanagons, I find myself restoring this or that, > treating > rust, replacing things left off, tightening loose stuff , or whatever. > There is far, FAR more to REALLY fixing and restoring back to full > health > than just installing a part or several. > I'll even say this, installing whatever part........is really only > 40 % at > the most, of 'REAL repair and bringing back to full health' is. > do good work, have fun ! > Scott > www.turbovans.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Sullivan" <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008 9:50 AM > Subject: Re: Tune Up or Not? > > >> Well, my kid wants the van for the weekend, so will do the lines on >> Wednesday so I don't regret it. Thanks all. >> >> On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 11:43 AM, Stephen Grisanti >> <bike2vcu@yahoo.com>wrote: >> >>> I applaud your intentions, but have always found that doing >>> something >>> uncalled-for generally results in the unintended and unwanted. >>> But that >>> could just be me. >>> >>> Stephen >>> >>> --- On *Sun, 9/14/08, Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM>* >>> wrote: >>> >>> From: Michael Sullivan <sandwichhead@GMAIL.COM> >>> Subject: Tune Up or Not? >>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >>> Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 5:01 PM >>> >>> >>> Kinda feeling lazy today and was gonna replace rotor, cap and >>> plugs. I >>> will >>> be doing the fuel lines in a week or so. Van is running great and >>> wonder >>> if >>> I can do another chore and just keep the tune-up parts on hand. Just >>> don't >>> know when last done from PO and don't want to make trouble later >>> on, but >>> if >>> it aint broke.... Opinions? >>> >>> -- >>> Michael in San Antonio >>> 91GL AT 'Gringo' >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Michael in San Antonio >> 91GL AT 'Gringo'
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