

| Subject: | Re: Technical question re: Injector firing signal |
| From: | Scott Daniel - Turbovans |
| Date: | Thu, 9 Oct 2008 17:57:33 -0700 |
do you know how to check continuity with a volt-ohm meter ? essential to checking wiring harness continuity. the less expensive ones, analogue, start at under 5 dollars- made in china of course. Digital volt-ohm meters, which are far more capable.......like for checking oxygen sensor output ....... cost more of course. Recently my 20 year old one died - Radio Shack's best one was 70 bucks I think. Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "B.J.R." <beer_eighty@YAHOO.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 3:18 PM Subject: Re: Technical question re: Injector firing signal > Yeah, I mistaked too. I meant from the coil to ECU #1 > I tested the continuity in that wire, all good > > So how do I test for signal from coil to that terminal? > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; B.J.R. <beer_eighty@yahoo.com> > Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2008 10:55:29 AM > Subject: Re: Technical question re: Injector firing signal > > My Bentley manual shows that ECU pin #1 gets the signal from > the coil. This signal from one of the terminals on the coil > is actually connected to the pin #1 of the ignition control > unit. I think Scott was referring to the wire between the > terminal on the ignition coil and pin #1 of the ECU. If this > wire is disconnected you will still get sparks but the ECU will > not get the signal to fire the injectors. Scott probably has > this kept in his brain. I have to look at the schematics to > see this. That's a significant difference between an expert > and a novice. I think ECU is normally very durable. It is the > wiring that is more likely the cause of the problem. > > David > > > --- On Thu, 10/9/08, B.J.R. <beer_eighty@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> From: B.J.R. <beer_eighty@yahoo.com> >> Subject: Re: Technical question re: Injector firing signal >> To: dtkao0205@yahoo.com, vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 8:14 AM >> thanks David. >> But that is exactly what I ve outlined in my original post >> I built my own Double relay, that part of the system has >> been tested and functions properly. >> >> The ONLY thing I dont have is a signal to complete the >> injector loop from the ECU, I have 12v to the injectors. >> >> So in an AIRCOOLED engine, where does the computer get the >> signal to give the injectors the signal???& how do I >> test it??? >> >> If Im getting spark to all my cylinders, then the hall >> distributor (AKA ignition control unit) is functioning >> properly. yes or no?? >> >> where does the ignition interface with the ECU??? >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: David Kao <dtkao0205@yahoo.com> >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM; B.J.R. >> <beer_eighty@YAHOO.COM> >> Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 2:36:36 PM >> Subject: Re: Technical question re: Injector firing signal >> >> You may want to check the two relays that are often the >> cause of >> this kind of problem, i.e. no signal to injectors. One of >> them >> is called fuel pump relay and the other power control >> relay. >> Do not swap the two with each other. Any of the two being >> defective >> can result in a same symptom. So you will want to find a >> new one >> then try to replace one at a time to identify the bad one. >> >> One of the two injector leads is supplied with +12v and the >> other >> will be grounded by the ECU when the ECU fires the >> injector. If >> the ECU is defective it may not be sending the signal to >> ground the >> 2nd wire of the injector. If you get sparks that means the >> Hall Effect >> Unit is working in sending the signal to the ECU. If the >> ECU is not >> defective then the two relays are more likely to be faulty >> (one of >> them). >> >> This was discussed many times before. Maybe this is why no >> one >> jumped out to point this out. Good luck. >> >> David >> >> >> --- On Wed, 10/8/08, B.J.R. <beer_eighty@YAHOO.COM> >> wrote: >> >> > From: B.J.R. <beer_eighty@YAHOO.COM> >> > Subject: Re: Technical question re: Injector firing >> signal >> > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> > Date: Wednesday, October 8, 2008, 11:04 AM >> > I do not know. >> > >> > Could you be more specific? IE: how do I test? >> > >> > Only wire I see directly to the ECU in the wiring >> diagram >> > is terminal #1 at the ECU. >> > >> > AND >> > >> > if there is no signal, does that mean bad Distributer >> or >> > bad signal generator (hall distributor)?? >> > >> > Does it matter, because i believe ONLY entire rebuilt >> > distributrors are available, not rebuild kits. >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ---- >> > From: Eric Ley <eric_ley@hotmail.com> >> > To: B.J.R. <beer_eighty@YAHOO.COM> >> > Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 9:45:22 AM >> > Subject: Re: Technical question re: Injector >> firing >> > signal >> > >> > do you have signal for the distrubitor ??? need to tel >> the >> > computer when to >> > send signal to the injectors >> > >> > >> > --\
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