I've always felt that the safest anti-freeze is

Sierra, and it is phosphate free too.
http://www.sierraantifreeze.com/benefit.html

Anyone else use this?

By the way... their site says...
"Dispose of the old coolant properly and in compliance with local
regulations. In those few areas where recycling is available, both used EG
coolants and SIERRA Antifreeze should be offered to recyclers for recycling
and reuse."

Jack

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
Scott Daniel - Turbovans
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 8:41 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Another way to drain coolant

according to the MSDS you posted, thank you .........
anti-freeze can ignite.
I've sure never seen that occur !

Did someone say dump it down the drain ?
I thought *everyone* knew conventional ethylene glycol anti-freeze is a
serious poison.

----- Original Message -----
From: "miguel pacheco" <mundopacheco@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: Another way to drain coolant

> 'If your city uses a sewage treatment facility for effluent, straight
> down the drain is fine.'
> If you do a little research, you will find no mention, anywhere, that
> this practice is 'fine,' but you will find, just about everywhere you
> look, just the opposite......do not dump antifreeze down the drain!
> Funny that this comes up every so often.
> This is just a little tidbit from the MSDS :
> ECOTOXICITY
> The toxicity of this material to aquatic organisms has not been
> evaluated. Consequently, this material should be kept out of sewage
> and drainage systems and all bodies of water.
> Here is a sample MSDS :
> http://www.havoline.com/images/products/pdfs/anti_exlife.pdf
>
> Happy reading..........
>
> Gracias,
>                    Miguel