

| Subject: | Re: Oil cooler, D-pillar, Syncro - question |
| From: | Chris S |
| Date: | Mon, 10 Nov 2008 22:28:37 -0500 |
I want to install the Bus Boys oil cooler kit for the Vanagon before summer. Anyone use one of theirs? On 11/10/08, GMac999 <gmac999@gmail.com> wrote: > Or another option is to use a cooler with and integrated fan and a > thermostat. I've run them on several VW's, air-cooled that is, and they > work great. Here' one at CB Performance, > <http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=231>. If you do go with > an electric fan cooler, you definitely need to get a thermostat that will > turn it on/off so it doesn't overcool the oil, > <http://www.cbperformance.com/catalog.asp?ProductID=1330>. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Max Wellhouse > Sent: Monday, November 10, 2008 7:35 PM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Oil cooler, D-pillar, Syncro - question > > Man, 240 on the road and 210 in the city(where you'd think it would be > higher) than on the open road), that';s pretty hot. I know the synthetics > do well in high heat, but I'm pretty old school on oil temp. If I were > you.... > 1. I'd keep the oil cooler hoses as short as possible to avoid oil pressure > drop. > 2. I'd keep the cooler as low as possible so the pump doesn't have to fight > gravity and then all that extra oil overload the sump when the motor is shut > down. You can get one way valves to keep the oil in the line, but then I'd > also have a thermostat in line with a bypass for proper warm up of the > motor(regardless of where you live or what time of year itis). > 3 Our concerns about adding heat tot the fuel lines may or may not hold > water, but ANY extra heat in the engine compartment isn't good. My > suggestion is to build a separate inlet on the driver's side with an > aftermarket air scoop and get a heating and cooling shop that makes custom > duct work build you a box for the cooler to get nothing but outside > air(yeah, you'll have to cut on the rear quarter panel, but it's more than > worth it) so the incoming airflow goes through the scoop, then over the oil > cooler, and then cut another hole in the horizontal surface with and exhaust > ducting to let the hot air flow right out the back of the van. This can > look very sanitary and will add years to your engine's life. YOu could even > rig up an old Rabbit(or Vanagon) fan motor to kick on in town when the oil > gets too hot, but then you're getting into some complicated stuff. In my 79 > Bay window bus with dual 44IDF Webers on it, I had this very system and my > oil never got over 210, and that was hauling 2 canoes on top and climbing > I-24 up that 8% grade to Sewannee Tennessee in the middle of August. > YMMV > > DM&FS > > At 06:46 PM 11/10/2008, Luke Bakken wrote: >>Hello everyone, >> >>Having successfully completed my first newbie vanagon project with this >>list's help, I thought I would move on to #2. My van has a 2.5L Subaru >>engine in it with an oil cooler, however, I don't think the cooler is >>located in an optimal place (up behind the left rear wheel >>well) because on hot days the oil temp can get as high as 240 degrees >>if I'm going on the freeway - around town the temp stays at about 210 >>degrees. I have been using synthetic oil as a precaution as well. >> >>What I would like to do is move the cooler to the passenger side >>D-pillar as these two people have done: >> >>http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/subaruvanagon/message/47107 >> >>http://www.shoptalkforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=102662 >> >>I removed the black plastic air flow box and water trap and everything >>looks OK except for the fact that the metal fuel pipe also runs through >>the area at the bottom of the D-pillar (the van is a Syncro). >>I'm wondering if the presence of an oil cooler here would radiate too >>much heat and create a dangerous fuel situation. If so, where do other >>Syncro owners put their oil coolers to ensure good air flow? >> >>And, while I'm on the subject, what brand of oil cooler do people use? >> >>Thanks in advance, >>Luke > -- Sent from my mobile device Chris S. Disclaimer: "Death and serious injury may occur"
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