

| Subject: | Re: Tire sales-people (rant + info .... long) |
| From: | mdrillock |
| Date: | Sat, 8 Nov 2008 20:05:59 -0800 |
Sadly, that tire is discontinued in that size. I have used several sets on Syncros/ Campers and I know many other Vanagon/Syncro/Westy owners who have too. Nice tire and I would love to still be able to get them. Of course it is a Load C 6PR tire so the load index theory does not strictly apply, IMHO. Larry and I have gone around and around on this. He prefers to err on the side of insisting on a higher weight/load standard. The result is that many people buy low end Asian tires with high load/weight numbers but inferior braking and handling and think they have done a good thing. Doesn't matter much anymore since most of the quality tires that fit our vans are gone anyway. You can at least still get some decent winter tires for $$$. Mark neil N wrote: > Tire in question: Michelin LT 195/75/14 93R Mud & Snow. > > On a whim, I went to a local tire shop. The first salesman, tries to > sell me these Michelins. I was dubious, but curious, so he sent me to > talk to someone else. I should say in defense of the first guy, that > he did recommend some Agillis tires though I didn't actually see them > to identify what size/model they were. Regardless, I wanted some > snows. So.... > > Ok. Now I'm talking to the second fellow. First off, in reference to > me saying my Westy needed a minimum 97 L.I. tire, he asks: "where did > you hear that?". I say: "internet". During the conversation, he then > refers to the info I got as "crap". Well, now he's inadvertently > insulting my Vanagon buddies here on this list and elsewhere. (not to > mention my own intelligence) But to be open minded, I listened. > > I knew enough to know this tire didn't have the right load index > (according to what I've read) but the first fellow looks it up anyway. > Sure enough. 1435 lbs. But no, they're both trying to convince me that > it would be fine citing various "examples". Basically continuing to > tell me I'm wrong. But hey. I'm the customer right? I want a tire with > a L.I. minimum of 97 dagnabbit! ;^) > > To confirm my suspicions: > > This from Larry's website (thanks Larry) > > "Model: LTX M/S > Size: LT195/75R14 > Passenger Car Tire: No > Load Index: 93 > Load Range: C > Max Load: 1435 lbs > Max Infl@ion Pressure: 50 psi > Diameter: 25.5 > Revs/per Mile: 824 > Fits in Stock Clamshell: Yes > > Meets Specifications: No " > > Oddly, I didn't see it on the Canadian Michelin website: > > http://www.michelinman.ca/specs/ltx_m_s/27.html > > Did they stop production of this size? Maybe this tire guy has old > stock to sell off? I don't see the Agillis in a size 14" either. > > Anyhowsers.,..... > > IMO, these guys were telling me that a tire VW considers unsuitable, was ok. > > Would a brake mechanic try to sell me undersized pads (if that were > even possible) or other incorrect parts? > > No. > > So why oh why, would a tire guy, > try to sell me a "pie in the sky"? > > Yeesh! ;) > > > Neil. > > -- > Neil Nicholson '81 JettaWesty "Jaco > http://groups.google.com/group/vanagons-with-vw-inline-4-cylinder-gas-engines > http://web.mac.com/tubaneil > http://tubaneil.googlepages.com/ > > >
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