Correction...

Apparently the forwarding is not set up for vanagon- 
admin@gerry.vanagon.com. Please use
vanagon-request@gerry.vanagon.com instead. Charter has been corrected.

Jim

On Nov 16, 2008, at 9:56 AM, Jim Arnott wrote:

> Below is the final edition of the Vanagon List Charter.  To those  
> that offered comments, I thank you.
>
> If you have additional comments or suggestions, please direct them to
> vanagon-admin@gerry.vanagon.com
>
> Jim Arnott
> List Admin
> vanagon@gerry
>
> This is the charter of the Vanagon List.
>
> Welcome to the list!
>
> You MUST READ this document and agree to abide by it if you want to  
> stay on
> the list.
>
> This list is only about Volkswagen T25 Transporters, Vanagons and  
> Caravelles,
> model years 1980 through end of production. If you have an earlier  
> bus, or a
> Eurovan, you are on the wrong list. For 1950-1967 buses, you will  
> probably want
> Thom Fitzpatrick�s vintagebus list. For 1968-1979 buses you�ll be  
> looking
> for the type2 list. Each can be found at their respective dot coms.  
> For Eurovans,
> there is a Yahoogroup list.
>
> To maintain this resource we use (at the time of this writing) a list
> administrator and a server admin. You can always get hold of the  
> administrator
> by sending mail to vanagon-admin@gerry.vanagon.com.
>
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>
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> This list has about a thousand people on it (yes!), and because of  
> that we
> have to have some rules. This is how we maintain the value of the  
> list as an
> information source.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> _________
> PRIORITY ONE RULES -- If you screw up here you'll be kicked off the  
> list and
> quite possibly banned forever (we really mean it):
>
>
> --Do not EVER post UNSUBSCRIBE messages to the list. Clear  
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> about doing
> this. If you are having trouble posting, send mail to the list  
> administrator
> on duty at vanagon-admin@gerry.vanagon.com and they will help you.
>
> --Do not EVER post virus warnings, or messages about important  
> issues that you
> think should concern everybody in the world. Do not post messages  
> unless they
> have legitimate Vanagon content. If you think the message you're  
> sending is so
> important that the "Vanagon content" rule does not apply to you,  
> that means that
> you should ==NOT== post it.
>
> --Do not ever continue a thread that an administrator has "killed".  
> This is
> fairly rare, but if an admin says, "please kill this thread," then  
> do not post
> any more messages on that topic. This is how the admins keep marginal
> discussions from growing out of control.
>
> --Do not harvest addresses. It is not appropriate to collect the  
> personal email
> addresses of list members and send them bulk email about your event  
> or "special
> offer". This is called "spamming" and if you do it you will be  
> denounced
> throughout Usenet and all the VW mailing lists, banned from our  
> list forever,
> and we will be talking to your ISP about having your service  
> terminated.
>
> --Do not use an auto-responder without unsubscribing from the list  
> first. If
> your "out of the office" program starts trying to post messages to  
> the list
> you will be removed.
>
> --Do not use profanity on the list.  This is not your high-school  
> locker room.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> _________
> PRIORITY TWO RULES -- If you screw up here you will be quietly  
> "moderated",
> which means a list administrator will intercept and examine every  
> message you
> try to post to the list. This can slow your messages by up to 48  
> hours:
>
> --Don't post chatty messages. If it does not have legitimate  
> Vanagon content,
> do not post it to the list. There should be a good reason that 1000  
> people will
> download your message. We do enforce the "no chat" rule  
> consistently and it is
> the number one reason people get moderated.
>
> --Don't post Friday subjects except on Friday. Historically, the  
> content
> guidelines are looser on Friday, and that is the only day when it  
> is appropriate
> to post messages on certain (marginal) subjects.  However, even on  
> Fridays posts
> should have Vanagon content.
>
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> _________
> ETIQUETTE AND LIST CULTURE --
>
> --There is a mail size limit of 20,000 characters and we don't allow
> attachments. Do not try to post pictures, they won't get through.
>
> --Please quote only for context. Do not quote other people's entire  
> messages
> when replying. Especially do not include an entire digest when  
> replying.
>
> --Search the List Archive.
> In other words, consult the extensive resources available to you at
> gerry.vanagon.com before asking on the list. You will get more  
> information
> faster that way. If you ask frequently asked questions (FAQs) or  
> frequently
> annoying recurring threads (FARTS), people will be inclined to  
> ignore you or
> become caustic.
>
> --Vendors are welcome and encouraged to participate in the list-- 
> we've had
> several vendors who have been valued list members. Specific answers  
> to specific
> queries about products and pricing are fine, but please avoid  
> repeatedly posting
> advertisements. What we're looking for here is high information  
> value for the
> listees. If we think you are merely spamming we will moderate you  
> very quickly.
>
> --Occasionally, a list member will have a problem with the  
> performance of a
> vendor or with a private transaction gone bad. If you are having  
> trouble with
> a vendor, do everything you reasonably can to resolve it WITH THE  
> VENDOR before
> you bring it to the list. Do not ambush people. If you can't  
> resolve it yourself,
> it is a valid topic for discussion on the list, but please stick to  
> the facts of
> the vendor's product or performance. Flames are not appropriate  
> EVEN IF you can
> prove you've been shafted.
>
> --Try to write using conventional capitalization, syntax and  
> spelling. It
> indicates respect for the reader, and intentionally ignoring these  
> conventions
> indicates contempt.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> _________
> PRIVACY POLICY
>
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> what the inducement. Our list server will not reveal the addresses of
> subscribers through automated commands. Our web site does not  
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>
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> or any other such rubbish. In short, we will not spy on you, and if  
> you have
> trusted us with your email address we will do our best to see that  
> your trust
> is not betrayed.
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> _________
> LEGAL STUFF
>
> 1. This is not a moderated list. The administrator doesn't see the  
> messages
> until you do, maybe later than you do, and because of the nature of  
> this medium
> the administrator has no way of retracting messages from public view.
> Propagation is automatic; once you send a message, it's gonna go,  
> and there's
> no way of stopping it.
>
> 2. Since that is true, the administrator cannot control what is  
> posted to this
> list, and therefore disclaims any responsibility for the messages  
> the list
> server propagates. If you post a message, you alone are responsible  
> for it. If
> you don't like that, then don't post messages.
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> respective authors.
> The administrator of this list makes no claim to ownership of your  
> messages and
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>
> However, cross posting is common on the Net whether it is  
> authorized or not,
> and if you post a message to this list it will automatically be  
> entered into
> at a publicly accessible online archive, where it will remain  
> permanently. If you
> don't like the possibility of your words being cross-posted or  
> archived, then don't
> post messages.
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