

| Subject: | problems with "ping" noise regardless of timing |
| From: | Frank Schultz |
| Date: | Sat, 22 Nov 2008 13:55:12 -0500 |
Hello All - I have been wrestling with this for 4 days: 82 Westy 2.0 aircooled Weber 2 bbl Progressive (yeah, I know) SVDA Got my Westy back from having my mechanic do a rear brake job on my westy. He also set the timing (he replaced points and condenser when I first bought the car but did not time the engine (first strike). The PO had the timing at a total advance of 60 BTDC. I can't believe my mechanic did not check the timing or valves when I brought it in to them initially to check out. It ran great except for a pinging noise which I thought was detonation from the timing being to advanced (42 degrees total including dist. vac. advance) I retarded the timing to 7.0 then 5 BTDC, then 0 and the ping did not go away. The ping is not steady would not happen during idle, but would happen on acceleration and deceleration. It was not a steady ping but random. Did compression test (cold) later realized that I should do it warm- had 1=85 2-85 3-100 4-100 So I went back to square one and set the dwell to 48, retimed and adjusted the carb - same pinging. Ran 1/2 bottle of seafoam through the carb, ran worse - number 2 cylinder was not affected idle when disconnected spark. Air is pumping out of the crankcase breather hose Ping still there.... did my first valve adjustment on cylinder 1 and 2. Wiped off spark plugs (they were black (dry black) from the seafoam I think), The intake valve on # 2 took twice as many turns (5) to get clearance as the other valves. The car was cool - not cold and made two complete turns after contact The balance test on #2 cylinder is much better (same difference as other cylinders when spark is taken away). Ran the car - the lifters were clanking (well something was that sounded like lifter noise I have had in the past). So drove it around to get rid of it...after what had been about 20 minutes (usually goes away in about 5-8 min.) it had not quieted down so I parked it and took a look. The timing was showing 0 (TDC), which was about 7.5-8 yesterday. Retimed to 7.5 btdc and 30 btdc at 3000 rpm without carb vacuum - and took it back out. it was hesitating at low RPMs and not running great, but running - another 8 minutes and the noise was still there - besides some hesitation in low RPMS ran pretty well. My big concerns are: 1. I am still getting some pinging, but not as much as before (hard to tell with clanking going on). 2. I am getting air pumping (pulsing) out of the crankcase breather hose and the air is a bit dirty with a little smoke. 3. The clanking has not gone away after adjusting valves Tomorrow I will: Confirm TDC with static timing light readjust the valves (cold) - both sides retune compression test (Warm). Any ideas or suggestions out there? Thanks in advance for your suggestions and input. Best regards, Frank ------------------------------------------------------------ + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON + in the body of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------
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