hey, well I've got one for you.
a quite collectible one too.
a very late VW Bug, convertible............one of the fuel injected ones,
with alternator too, instead of the old generator.
Little expensive. Looks pretty cherry though.
it's in Southern Oregon.

I totally agree with you on modern cars. - about them being to crazy complex
and electronic do-dads to excess, etc.
I find right around the late 80's to be just right.
Modern enough, but not 'too.'

I TOTALLY agree with you on the 'isolated from the road' thing too.  I
really dislike modern cars in that way.  Heck, even later vanagons feel
isolated from the road compared to 84's and earlier.

and you got it about safety........I consider air-cooled VW's to be unsafe
antiques.
Let's see............what is a good German car that's almost modern enough,
yet not an old tin can death trap............?
Various BMW's pop into mind ..........even mercedes,
but you want to stay VW I think..........
well, how about a water-cooled jetta/rabbit sorta thing ?
I drove an 84 GTI once.........( that's a Rabbit with factory performance
tuning )
and it was thrashed too.......tons of miles on it.......trim falling off
etc........and yet it was a Beautifully Balanced Performance car, ( for FWD,
that is  - but it was very, very neutral handling - a real driver's
suspension tuning. ) .
there's a lot of fun to be had in those more modern front wheel drive
water-cooled VW's.
Most of them are not really enough car for me to drive
personally.............
but they are MILES ahead of any older Bug.,
Scott
turbovans.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeff Michal" <jeffmichal@YAHOO.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: Off topic - Tips for beetle

> Actually I am talking classic beetle.  I've looked around, but I'm just
> not
> finding the vanagon.com of classic vw beetle.  Sorry for all the confusion
> I
> created.  I really dont like modern cars; driving is just different in
> cars
> made after the early 90s.  All this electrical abs airbag crumple
> business,
> no road noise, no engine noise.  I feel too insulated from the road, out
> of
> touch sort of.  I realize its not as safe, but I wear my seatbelt and I
> accept the risk beyond that.
>
> Jeff
> 90GL
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <JordanVw@AOL.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Off topic - Tips for beetle
>
>
>> In a message dated 11/25/08 1:49:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,
>> jeffmichal@YAHOO.COM writes:
>>
>>
>>> Hey folks.  I'm thinking I need a beetle so I dont have to drive my
>>> vanagon
>>> all the time.  I dont know much about them.  Can anyone advise as to a
>>> place
>>> where I can read about the different model years and options, and maybe
>>> about stuff to look out for when buying one?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> i assume your talking about '98 up NEW beetles.
>> the NB's are plagued by electrical problems.. aside from that they seem
>> to
>> be decent cars.   get a tdi one if you can :<)
>>
>>
>>
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