John,
How dare you being civilized?!  Or being normal?  Sheesh!  This list is
going with the country's tendency of denying what we valued in the past and
elevate what we never used to.
I was surprised about the Boston Bob outpouring, that was not Vanagon
related.  Was that sheesh too?  Or because he was the King of Vanagon
engines and being probably the most enthusiastic person who dedicated his
life to solving our troubles.  Sheesh for that also?
But I must realized, that we are not the same.  We have different worlds
with different problems, with different tolerance levels and different
levels of respect to tradition, normalcy, the people around us, etc.
But there was Happy Hanukkah, and Happy Kwanza (I hope to spell correctly).
If you did not notice, Christianity is a big no-no.  It threatens all the
other religions by its size.  Even the religion of the agnostics, which they
believe in even deeper maybe.
But I celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ every time I write down the date.
And I'm not even practicing my faith.  Only have respect to our history.
Fox News was the only channel that mentioned the attack on that religion and
no attack on any other.
I see the mocking of Christianity daily in some advertisings and the
Hollywood movies with all the evil characters wearing large crosses on their
chest.
On this list most of the people are normal and it is natural to get the
messages of the intolerant agnostics, or whatever that is not preferred.

As an interesting item here;  one scientist said, that our belief in the
supernatural is very natural.  In fact if we would know the extent of the
real creation and what it really took, we would be believing in a billion
times more in God, but not as a person but as if it was like nature itself,
including everything in the universe.  Our primitive one person God belief
comes from the acceptance of having a king to rule us, and the explanation
of creation with out many thousand year old stories is only to create
comfort and balance in the minds of the masses to avoid panic and the
feeling of worthless toil.

Sorry, it is Friday and I must say, I must have broken all the rules and I'm
sure, I will be tossed into the crematorium.  Now you understand how brave
those people were when they expressed themselves when they knew for sure,
they will really be tossed in there.

I'm actually more concerned now with my Vanagon not starting by not getting
pulse to the injectors.  I got spark, I got, fuel pressure, the idle valve
is buzzing, relays are clicking.  I took the injectors out on one side and
can's see them spraying.  I'm working on it.

Your God bless you all.  Hugs and kisses to everybody for peace and love in
this time of festivities.
Regards, Zoltan
----- Original Message -----
From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 9:06 AM
Subject: Being Politically Correct on The List

> Is it just me, or what?
>
> It seems extraordinary to me, but I don't recall seeing a single
> Thanksgiving Holiday Greeting come across this list in celebration of
> this special holiday just past. Am I wrong, or did I just miss
> something? Have we turned a corner somewhere that I didn't see and
> become so politically correct about our List that simple civil
> salutations best wishes on Holidays are no longer expressed? It is
> disturbing to think this is happening. If this is true, it becomes even
> more disturbing because such events lead to more curtailment of
> expression.
>
> Just my thoughts this Frydaye morning.
> (while not specifically Vanagon in content - it definitely has to do
> with the  heath of our list community.)
>
> John Rodgers
> 88 GL Driver
>
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