well the very old time classic 'fix' is to fill the cylinders with coca
cola, and let that sit in there for a few weeks.
That'll eat at corrosion !
PB Blaster is one really good penetrating oil.
I 2nd the marvel mystery  oil idea.
also..........if you have access to the flywheel teeth.........
levering on those with a large screwdriver, might give nice leverage - plus
you can go back and forth in tiny amounts, forward and backwards.

----- Original Message -----
From: "neil N" <musomuso@GMAIL.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: Frozen engine

> You might break it free by towing it, but personally I wouldn't do
> that. But then I'm the precautious type.
>
> I second the motion for Marvel oil and gradually getting it to turn.
> Is LPS a penetrating oil? Maybe some Liquid Wrench would help?
>
> Neil. (another I4 owner)
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2008 at 4:10 PM, Robert Keezer <warmerwagen@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>> Well I finally soved one problem just to end up with another- isn't that
>> just the way it is with a Vanagon?
>> The battery went out in my other '82 Vanagon  inline-four engine. Not my
>> Westy, but one I got in '06 that has a Scirocco engine . It ran fine for
>> three days, then stopped running. I spent time here and time there trying
>> to figure it out.
>> Finally, I gave up on the CIS system that was so hacked anyway by the PO
>> that I ripped it all out and replaced it with Digifant 2.
>>
>> Ok, so next ,the battery went out. I get a good battery. Now the starter
>> craps out. I get a good starter which took several months to accomplish.
>> Now the engine will not turn . Not even with a breaker bar and cheater
>> pipe.
>>
>> It's not hydro-locked, but it has sat for 2 years in the driveway. SO of
>> course this means the rings rusted to the cylinder walls.
>> So I sprayed LPS in every cylinder .
>> How long does that take to work- any better ideas?
>> We are normally 60-100% humidity here in the PNW so I am not surprised it
>> froze.
>> Just that on other engines that froze I was able to break them free with
>> a breaker bar. This one seems that I would break the bar if I could stand
>> on it.
>> Could I attach the towbar and break it free by towing? Anybody done that
>> before?
>>
>> Robert
>> 1982 Vanagon inline four
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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