

| Subject: | Re: Update on the Haltech ECU Hassles |
| From: | John Rodgers |
| Date: | Tue, 2 Dec 2008 01:49:06 -0600 |
Max, Thanks for the background story on the Haltech. To me, you are like a great explorer traveling to conquer regions unknown to the common man - er, Vanagon driver! I know not of these things, but I'm always interested. I appreciate your taking the time to tell the story. Regards, John Rodgers 88 GL Driver Chelsea, AL Max Wellhouse wrote: > If one person actually asks a question, it is safe to assume 11 or 17 > others are at least thinking it. Without making a novel out of this > posting, here is the short skinny on the Haltech Saga. > > In the year resembling 2001, i was faced with overhauling the engine > in my 90GL. The initial head rebuild had not lasted all that long > and it was time to jump in with both feet. I chose to buy one of > Boston Bob's engines with a few breathing improvements to the tune of > about $2200. Noting the familiar issues with the Bosch ECU that came > from the factory, I was researching aftermarket engine management > systems and found that Gene Berg Enterprises sold a unit called a > Haltech(www.haltech.com if you're real curious). Gene's boy's were > ga-ga over this system and raved about its ability to be custom-tuned > to the individual engine it was managing. At the time, the Haltech > kit was only a couple hundred dollars more than a new Bosch brain, so > I splurged. > > Haltech systems are usually used on racing vehicles and not daily > drivers, but they are compatible with most any 1,2,3,4,5,6,8,10, or > 12 cylinder engine and a wide variety of ignition systems. The unit > I bought, the then state ofthe art E6S, was run by a simple 600kb DOS > floppy and you simply hooked up your laptop to the ECU and fed it the > info needed to program the fuel and ignition maps. Even with a guy > that sort knew what he was gdoing with a laptop and a VW motor, we > strugled to get it to run at any arpm. Eventually we did get it > running decently, but it was a $400 dyno trip to Omaha's Sublime > Speed shop that got everything dialed in(4hours on their dyno at the > time at $110/hr.). Somewhere I posted on this list that it topped > out at 86 rear wheel horsepower and 104 ft.lbs. of torque. I'm sure > the guys in the shop could hardly keep from snickering at the site of > a VW bus getting dyno tuned. > > It ran very well after all that investment, but upon permanently > moving back to Iowa in 2003, we discovered that the van would > gradually not start so well right down to 10 degrees Fahrenheit where > it wouldn't start at all. didn't have that trouble in > Arkansas. Have still yet to figure out how to dial in all the primer > maps and coolant temp maps etc, but we'll figure it out > eventually. For a long period of time, we could not get the old > Toshiba laptop to "communicate" with the Haltech ECU, so we had no > idea what was going on in there. Eventually the ECU crapped and it > had to go back to Australia to be repaired(the newer Haltechs run off > Windows and are much easier to deal with). The rebuild and shipping > set me back about $300 and I weighed that long and hard against > buying an updated model(the E6X). Seems that the USA repair shop in > Socal only can repair the Windows based units and the older ones have > to go "home". Going back to Berg's, they said that there were much > less expensive versions of ECU's out there on the market now and that > they don't fool with Haltech much any more. > > Putting the rebuilt Haltech in last spring, the engine ran okay it > seemed, but definitely felt slow in the lower rpm ranges and for a > while I thought the low compression in the motor was the root > cause. At this point, my son has a new laptop and we can't get it to > run the DOS program for the Haltech, so we still don't know what's > going on inside the ECU and not really willing to go to Omaha for > another "expensive" tune up. As of a week or so ago, my son got this > DOSBOX program to open up the ECU and now we can communicate with the > ECU and the one glaring fact is that the TPS isn't working > properly. It gets to about 30% and further flooring ofthe throttle > sends it to zero. How many years it's been that way is a mystery to > us all. The Hit Man guy is simply a website in Penrith that has a > lot of valuable info on setting up these ECU's, but he is a Mazda > freak and although he as done a couple Golfs, the Vanagon is different > somehow. > > Long story short is that the new TOPS is going in tonight and we'll > go from there. Kinda wondering if the MAP sensor is toast also now. > > Thanks for holding my feet to the fire and making cough up a little > history John > > > DM&FS > > > >> What Australian masterpiece of an ECU? What hassles? >> >> Obviously I have missed something somewhere. Can you give me a >> point of reference - website or something.a little more on your >> problems. >> >> Thanks, >> >> John Rodgers >> 88 GL Driver >> >> Max Wellhouse wrote: >>> Well, since I last whined about this Australian masterpiece of an >>> ECU, I've done a little research, but more importantly, my son's >>> installed a freebie from the internet called DOSBox and it's spozed >>> to let you run DOS programs from even the new Vista system. Well, he >>> got the laptop to communicate with the Haltech(something we haven't >>> been able to do for like 3 years) and after checking a few things >>> out, we find that the Throttle Position Sensor never reads above 30% >>> and shortly after that drips to zero. I guess the MAP sensor allows >>> the engine to run at some level, but I have in my hot little hands a >>> new TPS and will be installing it tomorrow night and hopefully after >>> re-calibrating it, we'll have peace and good once again. Then we can >>> program the idle air control and fool with the coolant maps and cold >>> start primer. >>> >>> BTW, there is a guy named Matt who calls himself the "Hit Man" and >>> he's out of Penrith, and his website and an email or two has brought >>> a lot of light to the problems I'm dealing with. Haltech has been >>> helpful too, but not like the Hit Man. Maybe one more update once I >>> get it all fingered out >>> >>> >>> DM&FS >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to >>> + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON >>> + in the body of the message. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to > + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON > + in the body of the message. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------------------------------------ + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON + in the body of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------
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