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Subject:Re: Making of a Vanagon - Now New T3
From:Allan Streib
Date:Wed, 3 Dec 2008 15:28:36 -0500

BringBackTheTransporter.com seems to be available.

BringBackTheBus.com, sadly, is already in use.

Allan

On Wed, 3 Dec 2008 12:08:53 -0800, "Scott Daniel - Turbovans"
<scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM> said:
> there's already a 'vanagain' I'm pretty sure.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Matt Drew
>   To: Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>   Cc: vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2008 12:10 AM
>   Subject: Re: Making of a Vanagon - Now New T3
>
>
>   Vanagain.com
>
>   :o)
>
>   Sign me up!
>   I'm already saving . . .
>
>
>
>
>   On Tue, Dec 2, 2008 at 6:58 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans
>   <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
>
>     well there ya go - that sounds great - a website dedicated to
>     'reaching' VW
>     about the US market and what we'd love to have and buy.
>     Nice clever but obvious domain name is a great first step.
>     listentousVW.org.
>     bringmyvanbackVW.org   ( like that one a bit )
>     VWlistenplease.org  ( looking for words that seem sepearate and are
>     easy to
>     read when run together - don't like this one )
>
>     listenpleaseVW.org ..............that's my nomination at the moment.
>     or .com
>     ......or whatever.  The tag on the end doesn't matter much I don't
>     think.
>     '.org' sounds more official and less commercial.
>
>     getmyvanbackVW.org.
>     ( those slimeballs might sue over having 'vw' in the domain name -
>     sheesh. )
>
>     Don't even get me started...........and this point should, I think,
>     be in
>     the first paragraph of the website......VW you have tens of thousands
>     of
>     loyal followers that you are NOT listening too !
>     That's the tragic shame of it .............they have a market right
>     here in
>     their hands...........and they either don't know, ( how could then
>     not ? )
>     or don't care.
>     Seems that they don't care.   < and let's suggest a discount for
>     people who
>     have previously owned VW's .........I think that's a great marketing
>     gambit - that would automaticcly pull 'us' types in for new products.
>      < in
>     Forida that have two for one sales now at dodge dealers......buy one
>     high
>     end monster truck for $ 45K......get one stripper truck included for
>     free >
>     ,
>
>     It's encouraging to read all the ideas about how a Vanagon
>     configuration
>     vehicle could be viable.........and how the Japanese still have front
>     control passenger vans etc.
>     And VW.............don't forget the Ground Clearance !!
>     That is one of the 'signature elements' that makes it stand out from
>     the
>     crowd of mini-vans, and gives it great, great utility !!
>     I like listenpleaseVW.org at the moment -  :-)
>     scott
>     ( many listendammitVW.org )
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: "Anthony Egeln" <regnsuzanne@YAHOO.COM>
>
>     To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>
>     Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:32 PM
>     Subject: Re: Making of a Vanagon - Now New T3
>
>
>
>     I've brought the idea to the list before, that is to create a website
>     dedicated to convincing VW to re-open the T3 assembly line, albeit
>     with
>     updated electronics and power train.
>
>     Folks voiced their skepticism with objections that Andrew has
>     debunked
>     below, i.e. that the vehicle COULD be brought up to current USA &
>     Canadian
>     safety standards.
>
>     I would love to have a new T3 TDI Syncro.......I think that a lot of
>     people
>     would......
>
>     Anthony
>     '89 Syncro GL (Hidalgo)
>
>
>     --- On Tue, 12/2/08, Andrew Grebneff <goose1047@GMAIL.COM> wrote:
>     From: Andrew Grebneff <goose1047@GMAIL.COM>
>     Subject: Re: video: Making of a Vanagon
>     To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>     Date: Tuesday, December 2, 2008, 6:23 PM
>
>
>         You're not forgetting about air bags, and ABS brakes and such
>
>     things ,
>
>         right
>
>
>     T3s were available with ABS. Airbags are easily added. Stability
>     control likewise (but this is no guarantee of safety... "Wheels" in
>     Australia recently tested a Toyota Kluger (=Highlander) and the
>     stability control did NOT step in when it should have... and the
>     vehicle rolled several times (and the Aussie market demands much
>     better suspension than US).
>
>
>         since the only 'people sit right in front' vehicles sold in
>
>     north America
>
>         are trucks.  ( I'm thinking those Isuzu cab-over diesel delivery
>
>     trucks and
>
>         similar cab-over trucks  )
>         In all cars , mini-vans, and people haulers, the occupants are
>
>     mid-mounted
>
>         these days.
>
>
>     Well, the Japanese have continued with forward-control vans (and
>     likewise the 2nd-generation Mitsubishi Delica made by Hyundai as the
>     H100). These must be passing Euro NCAP offset-head-on crashtests,
>     which the T3 would pass with flying colors.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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