

| Subject: | Re: Heaters for winter camping |
| From: | Tom Buese |
| Date: | Thu, 4 Dec 2008 12:17:44 -0700 |
I have the same Wave 3 heater that hangs from 2 small screws mounted into the top of the front westy table leg & can rotate to face several directions. It is attached to a quick connect propane hose w/ shutoff valve to the propane line under the sink, & can be removed & installed in seconds. I generally store it under the rear seat when not in use. Works great like Jim said, but only in mild weather. Does not heat well like a Propex, etc. when the temp. is under 30 degrees in my experience. 3000 BTUH is not enough to quickly warm the volume of the westy? That said, I have never tried it when the poptop is down or that space is insulated from the lower space. I will try that this Winter. YMMV, Mr. BZ On Dec 4, 2008, at 11:49 AM, Jim Felder wrote: > I don't want to start a heater flame war (pun obviously intended) but > I did want to mention that I use the olympic Wave III heater mounted > on the bulkhead aft of the passenger seat, facing backwards, and I am > very happy with it. It is plumbed through the floor to a tee into the > propane supply and has an independent shutoff from the rest of the > system to the stove and fridge. > > It is very efficient and doesn't use as much oxygen that the Mr. Buddy > and Plat Cat heaters do, which is why I bought it. It's more > expensive, though. It's the size of a pack of 250 sheets of paper > almost exactly. > > It doesn't produce much condensation, and I have installed a 4 inch > computer fan over the stove window to make sure that proper air > exchange takes place. You can see the fan mounting details at > <http://www.knology.net/~felder/Vanagons/> I use one or both of the > fans to exhaust cooking fumes, too. > > Other than the tiny bit of electricity needed by one of the fans, the > heater of course draws nothing from the battery. The system is utterly > simple and dependable. > > Jim > > On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:52 AM, Chris S <szpejankowski@gmail.com> > wrote: >> John, google tent propane heaters. They should be cheap to make >> with >> air coming in through the sliding window via a custom block-off >> panel. >> >> On 12/4/08, John Rodgers <inua@charter.net> wrote: >>> Heating a van in winter when camped out and away from external >>> electric >>> power is always problematic, it seems to me. Catalytic heaters >>> produce >>> moisture and the risk of carbon monoxide poisoning. Any kind of open >>> flame gas heater has the same problem. The gasoline fired heaters >>> under >>> the rear seat are very pricey. So trying to get some sort of heat >>> is a >>> bit of a problem. >>> >>> So, how about this concept. An external, propane fired burner, with >>> circulating hot water(antifreeze coolant) to supply the heat to a >>> radiating core (rabbit heater core) inside the van. A small >>> blower fan >>> would circulate the air across the heater core. A small inline >>> circulating pump could be installed in the coolant line if needed - >>> something wih very low power drain. If the core was made to mount >>> in a >>> window like is done with some airconditioners, then the heater >>> element >>> could sit on the ground outside and thermosiphon action would >>> circulate >>> the coolant.- no circulating pump necessary - only a small blower >>> fan. >>> It could be taken down quickly when breaking camp. Another >>> possibility >>> would be a permanent mount of the heater core with the coolant lines >>> being fixed in place, but run to the a point outside the vehicle to >>> allow quick disconnect fittings for hookup/removal of the propane >>> burner element. when ready to hit the road. >>> >>> Just some heater thoughts on a miserable rainy morning in the deep >>> south. And to think - when my water line to the broke night before >>> last, >>> temps were such that the water spraying on a large grassy plant >>> made a >>> beautiful ice image standing in the morning sun. And this morning >>> it is >>> raining. Southern winter weather. Yuk! >>> >>> John Rodgers >>> Chelsea, AL >>> >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to >>> + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON >>> + in the body of the message. >>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>> >> >> -- >> Sent from my mobile device >> >> Chris S. >> Disclaimer: "Death and serious injury may occur" >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to >> + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON >> + in the body of the message. >> ------------------------------------------------------------ >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to > + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON > + in the body of the message. > ------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------ + To unsubscribe from the Vanagon List send an e-mail to + listserv@gerry.vanagon.com with SIGNOFF VANAGON + in the body of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------
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