I don't mean to offend, but show me something where EU law says that you
must drive with only the park lights on in cities.� I have first hand
experience that you can't do this.� If this was the case, ALL ECE
lights would have this "feature".

David Marshall

http://www.hasenwerk.ca
Box 4153, Quesnel BC, Canada V2J
3J2

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On Thu, December 11, 2008 11:18, Chris S wrote:
> 
> David, not all european lights have this feature, which could be
> explained by the fact it is a more recent addition to some EU
> countries' laws.  It is meant to enable you to drive in the
> brightly-lit cities at night with only these 'city lights' and in
turn
> preventing you from blinding traffic.
> 
>
On 12/11/08, David Marshall <mailinglist@fastforward.ca> wrote:
>> European lights have a hole in the back side of them for a park
light
>> which is also known as in these parts a "city
light" - not sure
>> where that term came from as it is
illegal in Germany to drive at night
>> in
>> the
city with only your parking lights on.  To translate literally
>> German to English it would be called a "standing
light" or park
>> light.
>>
>>
Signal markers in European vehicles come on only when
>> you
signal.  So at night, the yellow lights on your van stay off
>>
unless you signaling to turn.
>>
>> David
Marshall
>> VW Adventure
>> Driver and BMW Adventure
Rider
>>
>> http://www.hasenwerk.ca
>>
>> On Thu, December 11, 2008 07:30, mordo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> No, I'm not sure of that
but I didn't have the impression that the
>> parts
>>> man
>>> was doing anything but looking up
the
>> numbers I gave him.
>>>
>>>
I wasn't surprised at the quote -
>> I often get very
reasonable pricing from
>>> the dealer here.
>>>
>>> That is good info to know about the
connectors, boots
>> and such but I don't
>>>
understand the parking bulb holder. That is
>> a separate bulb
holder and
>>> connector for a Euro parking light?
>> Does the housing have a separate hole
>>> for
said holder?
>>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/11/08, David
Marshall
>> <mailinglist@fastforward.ca> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are
>> you sure they
are not just tacking an "A" at the end of the
>>
part
>>>> number
>>>> and quoting on
that - after all
>> the dealer does know more than us
>>>> right!?  I
>>>>
>> called
Hub City Motors - the VW dealer in Prince George about this and
>>>> those
>>>> non-A part numbers are not
valid.   The
>> part numbers with "A" next to
>>>> them
>>>>
>> are listed as
halogen, but are still the 9004 bulb DOT spec lights.  In
>>>> the
>>>> USA at least, it would be
illegal for VW to
>> sell non-DOT approved
>>>> lights.
>>>>
>>>>
>> Remember you also need more than just the light shells for the
european
>>>> lights.  You also need the weather boot for
the back, park
>> light bulb
>>>> holder, park
light bulb and the main H4 bulb and
>> an H4 wiring plug as
>>>> well.
>>>> When Fast Forward
>> was a going concern I had LOTS of people telling me I
>>>> was
>>>> ripping every one off with my
light pricing as someone else was
>> just
>>>>
quoting
>>>> them on just the shells and they
>> didn't want to realise that.  You need
>>>>
all
>>>> the
>> extra little bits or else the
first time it rains you will get water
>>>> in
>>>> the lights and that's not good!
>>>>
>>>> David Marshall
>>>> VW Adventure Driver
>> and BMW Adventure
Rider
>>>>
>>>>
>>
http://www.hasenwerk.ca
>>>>
>>>> On
Thu, December 11,
>> 2008 06:33, mordo wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Check your
>> local dealer's pricing. Just last week, I was quoted the
>>>>
>> very
>>>> > same
price by my local dealer (Russell VW -
>> Baltimore) that
our
>>>> reliable
>>>> > online VW
>> vendors sell them for - about $187 each. They said they
>>>>
>> could
>>>> > have
>>>> > them to me in 3-4
>> days.
>>>> >
>>>> > I for one am hoping
Santa
>> brings me some E Codes for Christmas.
>>>> >
>>>>
>>> cheers,
>>>> >
>>>> > mordo
>>>>
>>>
>>>> >
>>>> > Head lights come up with
>> reularity,
so I thought I would post this. It
>>>> >> is an
>> E-mail from Loren Busch to the list, referencing Daryl at AA
>>>>
>>>> transaxle, and some e-code
numbers. Read the whole e-mail to get
>> the
>>>> >> proper geist of it.
>>>>
>>
>>>> >> But there is the thing. I talked
to Camelback this
>> morning about
>>>>
these
>>>> >> and here is the
>>
scoop.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> All
the parts are
>> "obsolete) parts - BUT - may still be
available.
>>>>
>>>> Parts guy was
pretty sure they would be available inspite of the
>> fact
>>>> of
>>>> >> the "obsolete
>> designation.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Headlight -
>> Euro H4
>>>> >> 255-941-105 - (left) $216/ea
>>>>
>>>> 255-941-106 - (right) $216/ea
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Adjusters:
>>>> >> 255-941-140-C $9.00
>> (2
required)
>>>> >> 255-941-133 $5.00 (2 required)
>>>> >> 255-941-297 $10.00 (2 required)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> >>
Hope this helps.
>>>> >>
>>>>
>> John Rodgers
>>>> >> 88 GL Driver
>>>> >>
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>> 1990 Carat
>>>
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