I know the standing lights you mean, David. I thought that in Germany they
only illuminated on the driver side as this would be the street sided when
parked on the shoulder. I always wondered why this wouldn't drain anything
but the freshest battery. I would see them on all night while the cars were
parked.
I don't know if these are also called city lights.

Can one put a bung in these extra holes?

mordo

On Thu, Dec 11, 2008 at 6:20 PM, Chris S <szpejankowski@gmail.com> wrote:

> Not park lights but city lights.
>
> On 12/11/08, David Marshall <mailinglist@fastforward.ca> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I don't mean to offend, but show me something where EU law says that you
> > must drive with only the park lights on in cities.  I have first hand
> > experience that you can't do this.  If this was the case, ALL ECE
> > lights would have this "feature".
> >
> > David Marshall
> >
> > http://www.hasenwerk.ca
> > Box 4153, Quesnel BC, Canada V2J
> > 3J2
> >
> > Engine Conversion FAQ - http://www.hasenwerk.ca/faq
> >
> > On Thu, December 11, 2008 11:18, Chris S wrote:
> >>
> >> David, not all european lights have this feature, which could be
> >> explained by the fact it is a more recent addition to some EU
> >> countries' laws.  It is meant to enable you to drive in the
> >> brightly-lit cities at night with only these 'city lights' and in
> > turn
> >> preventing you from blinding traffic.
> >>
> >>
> > On 12/11/08, David Marshall <mailinglist@fastforward.ca> wrote:
> >>> European lights have a hole in the back side of them for a park
> > light
> >>> which is also known as in these parts a "city
> > light" - not sure
> >>> where that term came from as it is
> > illegal in Germany to drive at night
> >>> in
> >>> the
> > city with only your parking lights on.  To translate literally
> >>> German to English it would be called a "standing
> > light" or park
> >>> light.
> >>>
> >>>
> > Signal markers in European vehicles come on only when
> >>> you
> > signal.  So at night, the yellow lights on your van stay off
> >>>
> > unless you signaling to turn.
> >>>
> >>> David
> > Marshall
> >>> VW Adventure
> >>> Driver and BMW Adventure
> > Rider
> >>>
> >>> http://www.hasenwerk.ca
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, December 11, 2008 07:30, mordo wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>> No, I'm not sure of that
> > but I didn't have the impression that the
> >>> parts
> >>>> man
> >>>> was doing anything but looking up
> > the
> >>> numbers I gave him.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> > I wasn't surprised at the quote -
> >>> I often get very
> > reasonable pricing from
> >>>> the dealer here.
> >>>>
> >>>> That is good info to know about the
> > connectors, boots
> >>> and such but I don't
> >>>>
> > understand the parking bulb holder. That is
> >>> a separate bulb
> > holder and
> >>>> connector for a Euro parking light?
> >>> Does the housing have a separate hole
> >>>> for
> > said holder?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/11/08, David
> > Marshall
> >>> <mailinglist@fastforward.ca> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Are
> >>> you sure they
> > are not just tacking an "A" at the end of the
> >>>
> > part
> >>>>> number
> >>>>> and quoting on
> > that - after all
> >>> the dealer does know more than us
> >>>>> right!?  I
> >>>>>
> >>> called
> > Hub City Motors - the VW dealer in Prince George about this and
> >>>>> those
> >>>>> non-A part numbers are not
> > valid.   The
> >>> part numbers with "A" next to
> >>>>> them
> >>>>>
> >>> are listed as
> > halogen, but are still the 9004 bulb DOT spec lights.  In
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> USA at least, it would be
> > illegal for VW to
> >>> sell non-DOT approved
> >>>>> lights.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>> Remember you also need more than just the light shells for the
> > european
> >>>>> lights.  You also need the weather boot for
> > the back, park
> >>> light bulb
> >>>>> holder, park
> > light bulb and the main H4 bulb and
> >>> an H4 wiring plug as
> >>>>> well.
> >>>>> When Fast Forward
> >>> was a going concern I had LOTS of people telling me I
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> ripping every one off with my
> > light pricing as someone else was
> >>> just
> >>>>>
> > quoting
> >>>>> them on just the shells and they
> >>> didn't want to realise that.  You need
> >>>>>
> > all
> >>>>> the
> >>> extra little bits or else the
> > first time it rains you will get water
> >>>>> in
> >>>>> the lights and that's not good!
> >>>>>
> >>>>> David Marshall
> >>>>> VW Adventure Driver
> >>> and BMW Adventure
> > Rider
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> > http://www.hasenwerk.ca
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On
> > Thu, December 11,
> >>> 2008 06:33, mordo wrote:
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Check your
> >>> local dealer's pricing. Just last week, I was quoted the
> >>>>>
> >>> very
> >>>>> > same
> > price by my local dealer (Russell VW -
> >>> Baltimore) that
> > our
> >>>>> reliable
> >>>>> > online VW
> >>> vendors sell them for - about $187 each. They said they
> >>>>>
> >>> could
> >>>>> > have
> >>>>> > them to me in 3-4
> >>> days.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > I for one am hoping
> > Santa
> >>> brings me some E Codes for Christmas.
> >>>>> >
> >>>>>
> >>>> cheers,
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > mordo
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> > Head lights come up with
> >>> reularity,
> > so I thought I would post this. It
> >>>>> >> is an
> >>> E-mail from Loren Busch to the list, referencing Daryl at AA
> >>>>>
> >>>>> transaxle, and some e-code
> > numbers. Read the whole e-mail to get
> >>> the
> >>>>> >> proper geist of it.
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>>> >> But there is the thing. I talked
> > to Camelback this
> >>> morning about
> >>>>>
> > these
> >>>>> >> and here is the
> >>>
> > scoop.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> All
> > the parts are
> >>> "obsolete) parts - BUT - may still be
> > available.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Parts guy was
> > pretty sure they would be available inspite of the
> >>> fact
> >>>>> of
> >>>>> >> the "obsolete
> >>> designation.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Headlight -
> >>> Euro H4
> >>>>> >> 255-941-105 - (left) $216/ea
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 255-941-106 - (right) $216/ea
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >> Adjusters:
> >>>>> >> 255-941-140-C $9.00
> >>> (2
> > required)
> >>>>> >> 255-941-133 $5.00 (2 required)
> >>>>> >> 255-941-297 $10.00 (2 required)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> >>
> > Hope this helps.
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>>
> >>> John Rodgers
> >>>>> >> 88 GL Driver
> >>>>> >>
> >>>>> >
> >>>>> >
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>>
> >>> mordo
> >>>> 1990 Carat
> >>>>
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