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Subject:Re: The final answer on the "city light" debate
From:David Marshall
Date:Fri, 12 Dec 2008 10:14:01 -0800

The section in Wikipedia about London, Paris, Moscow bit *isn't*
authoritative as it doesn't site a reference - further proof to me that
the city light for use in bright citys is a myth.

As Wikipedia
states, park lights and city lights and standing lights are used on an
interchanging basis and it all means the same thing.� The lights that
come on with the first position from off setting of the headlight are
these lights [next position being headlights are fully on] - they are
located either in the headlamp or in the signal marker **but never both**
on a stock vehicle as the functions of these lights are the same - to
function as what north americans would call a park light.� 

I'll still live up to the original offer of C$20 via PayPal to the first
person who shows me that a city light and a park light are different sets
of lights on a stock ECE or DOT compliant vehicle.

David
Marshall
VW Adventure Driver and BMW Adventure Rider
 
http://www.hasenwerk.ca

On Fri, December 12, 2008 06:28, Mike
S wrote:
> 
> On 12/11/2008, David Marshall wrote...
>>There is no such thing as city light - a urban legend or
myth...
>>OK volks...
> 
> Meh. Wikipedia is
hardly an authoritative "final answer."
> 
>>
 there is no such thing as a separate city light system on a
>>vehicle - parking lights are the same as city lights and it is
not
>>legal
>>to use them alone in a city anywhere
in Europe now or any ECE
>>complying
>>country.
> 
> There _are_ city lights. The term refers to auxiliary
bulb installed in
> the headlamps, as opposed to separate lamps.
BMW "angel eyes" are a
> current example.
> 
> True, due to modern legalities, they come on with the parking lamps
on
> current vehicles. But that doesn't prove that was always the
case, or
> make them into "urban legends."

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