It's not bad design but an idiosyncrasy.   It's just a part of the
traits that give our Westfalias the charming personality it has.
Otherwise, the world I'd full of other choices you're welcome to
partake.

On 12/8/08, Scott Daniel - Turbovans <scottdaniel@turbovans.com> wrote:
> right.......
> don't even get me started - lol.
> I hate dumb design.
> .....so what happens when you swivel around a seat with arm rests on
> it.........the 'was inner' arm rest is then in conflict with the door handle
> on the door, or whatever other part sticks out,    and the seat has to be a
> little crooked instead of straight or able to move a little.  If just
> putting the arm rest up was a fine solution........
> I haven't noticed that it is, let's say.
>
> I mean.....in 'design' ............everything should move easily, not
> interfere with anything else..etc.
> like say in a house............would you make a door so that when it was
> standing wide open it blocked off a window ???
>  I wouldn't that's for sure.
> so when things are 'reconfigurable..........like swiveling front seats,
> smart designers make it work so it works nicely in all modes.
> Just like in engine conversions...........everything should be made very
> easy to work on, easy to access etc.....
> it's not a lot harder to make it nice, and it's about 300 % more rewarding
> when it is.
>
> and what I think of the stock vanagon Adventurewagon interior set up
> .............I better be quiet ! lol.
> Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tom Buese" <tombuese@comcast.net>
> To: "Scott Daniel - Turbovans" <scottdaniel@TURBOVANS.COM>
> Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 12:35 PM
> Subject: Re: Front Seat Upgrade............Cheap Alternative To Recaros?
>
>
>>I bet the arm rests on both sides were planned to be universal so that  you
>>can rotate the seats & anyone could leave the armrest on the door  side
>>whether RHD or LHD, up & out of the way?
>>
>> YMMV,
>>
>> Mr. BZ-no arm rests at all
>>
>>
>> On Dec 8, 2008, at 1:18 PM, Scott Daniel - Turbovans wrote:
>>
>>> yeah, no kidding on those arm rests - very dumb design !
>>> Seat belt gets tangled in it too.
>>> Nuthin' wrong at all with having the arm rest on the  door.......cause it
>>> automatically moves out of the way when you open the door - duh !
>>> VW designers would have been so proud to figure it out the other way
>>> ........
>>> where they always had put arm rests on the seats............to get the
>>> brilliant idea to move it to the door !
>>> On the other hand, having arm rests on the inboard side of the front
>>> seats
>>> is very nice.
>>>
>>> you can also add an arm rest from a door of an earlier vanagon. I  have a
>>> few
>>> of those for sale.
>>> Scott
>>> turbovans
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "M'obeechi" <obeechi@RUNBOX.COM>
>>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>>> Sent: Sunday, December 07, 2008 8:12 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Front Seat Upgrade............Cheap Alternative To  Recaros?
>>>
>>>
>>> I hate those arm rests. Try getting out of your car in a hurry when  one
>>> is
>>> flipped down. I'd rather have arm rests built into the front doors.
>>> Tossed
>>> my Carat arm rests a long time ago. Happier ever since.
>>>
>>> From: JordanVw@AOL.COM
>>> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>> Subject: Re: Front Seat Upgrade............Cheap Alternative To  Recaros?
>>>
>>>> In a message dated 12/7/08 11:42:54 AM Eastern Standard Time,
>>>> trvlr2001@COMCAST.NET writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> > Stock Seats Are Terrible !!!!
>>>> > (In my humble butt's opinion !!! :o)
>>>> > I always put Carat Seats (with arm rests) in All of my Westys !!!
>>>> > ( removing the swivel on the Drivers side)
>>>> > And I use a gel pad too !!! :o)
>>>> > John C...
>>>> > SLC, UT
>>>> >
>>>> > ( the chorus ;o)
>>>> > skinny butt skinny butt skinny butt skinny butt
>>>> > I got me a skinny butt
>>>> > sometimes I take it down town
>>>> > & I give it a Strut
>>>> > skinny butt skinny butt skinny butt !!!!
>>>> >
>>>> > heh heh heh ;o)
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> u might want to look into a butt donut too, john...   :<)
>>>>
>>>> im not implying anything :<)
>>>>
>>>>
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